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|Posted by: darius1941 November 23, 2005 03:47 am|
|Thanks mihnea for answering my question on the romanian messkits! I have too ask you where did you get your repro uniform?I have been useing a converted brown wool west german uniform which looks somewhat like the romanian ww2 issue but I would really would like too up-grade my impression and find someone who is making a good repro! And would you please tell me if the large canvas bag in your photo is a original or repro?I have been reading the rations which the romanian soldier had and I would like to ask about the type of beans that were used?And what was the pay for a private in the army?If anyone has reenact ww2 romanian let me know! I have never ran across a fellow romanian soldier at any of the events which I attend as a romanian.Thanks again for the help.|
|Posted by: mihnea November 23, 2005 08:41 pm|
| Hi darius,
I made my uniform at a friend, he is a tailor and works generally for movies, but the kaki cloth is impossible to find, the cloth for my uniform was painted but it looks grate.
I think that the bred bag from that photo is original I have some more which are post war and are similar the only difference is the dark green painted leather, only in WWII the leather parts were painted dark green.
I don’t think that individual solders carried beans.
Unfortunately there aren’t yet any Romanian reenactors just some amateurs, like me without any weapons and without any reenactments to participate in Romania.
Can you post a picture of your equipment?
|Posted by: darius1941 November 24, 2005 02:59 pm|
|Hi Mihnea,Thanks again for your help and I would like ask you a question,would your friend be willing to make another uniform if he was able too get the cloth?What sort of blend is the cloth?100% wool or is it a blend of a couple of material? If you ever decide too sell one of those canvas bags let me know as it is alot better than what Iam useing.Most of the time when we attend these reenactment event we try to bring rations as close as what the real soldier would have eaten and I was wondering when the time comes to cook a soup that the romanian soldier would have made,what sort of beans would he have used.I know that most of the time soups,breads,ect was cooked at company or higher level by the cooks at the wagons,then served to the individual soldier,but only the german units here have cook wagons and they are to busy cooking german type rations! I can not post a picture of my equipment at the moment as Iam not set up for that with the proper equipment,hopefully latter.Maybe in the near future you and some of the other member of this forum can be the start of ww2 reenacting in romania! This can only have positive results as you are helping to honor the soldiers who fought in that war.when you get to the tactical level and push aside the living history side of it and get out in the field with just your fellow reenactor(no public) and start the fighting it bring you up to a new leval.You get a feeling of what it must have been like to fight in ww2.I read that you have to obtain a permit over in romania to own a rifle is that true? after you get a permit,can you find the rifle or are they hard ti locate?how about blanks/ Take care|
|Posted by: mihnea November 28, 2005 12:22 pm|
| There were many shades of cloth (stofa) used it depends on the manufacturer.
I will send you a PM about the uniform.
About the weapon owning it has already been talked.
There is still an long way to go until we get to go “out in the field with just your fellow reenactor(no public) and start the fighting it bring you up to a new leval”.
|Posted by: Wings_of_wrath February 05, 2006 06:53 pm|
| There seems to be a small firm that manufactures replica romanian uniforms. They run a small shop in the basement of the MMN (Muzeul Militar National - National Military Museum) and they also sell original militaria like helmets, gasmasks, etc. Qualitywise the uniforms they make seem close to the originals, and the colour is ok. I belive the price is around 5.000.000 ROL (500 RON) for a complete uniform (trousers, tunic, cap, putees)
I will get back with a photo of the uniform they have on display at the shop, probably on Tuesday, since the museum is closed on Monday.
|Posted by: mihnea February 05, 2006 09:28 pm|
It has already been talked about it in the reenactment thread (http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2360&st=135) and the uniform is identical to the one posted in that topic from, ebay, except that it has a white parade belt, a capela instead of the helmet and no gas mask bag.
Here are some detailed photos of my cap, tunic, pants and the puttees made by the same guy from the MMN shop:
|Posted by: mihnea February 05, 2006 09:29 pm|
2 meters long!!!
|Posted by: Wings_of_wrath February 05, 2006 11:59 pm|
|Well, since I only joined up 2 days ago, I didn't have enough time to run trough the whole forum, so I missed a few threads... ok, a lot of threads.... Strangely enough, your post relating to the MMN shop is only from this morning...|
|Posted by: darius1941 February 12, 2006 02:03 am|
| Thanks wings of wrath for the information.
There are two of us forum members who are reenactors located here in the U.S. who want too do ww2 romanian and are planning on getting the uniform from the museum.
I have done romanian at serveral events but my uniform was not nearly as good as what is offered by the shop at the museum.
And the price is pretty good for what is offered.
Mihnea has given us alot of surport and photos and as soon as RHaught and myself get suited up in the correct uniform and make our debut together we will get some photos on the forum.
I have got the word out before but Iam looking for the messkit used by the romanian soldier in ww2 and should you by chance find any please give me a call.
|Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR March 29, 2006 12:42 pm|
| Here is a photo of a WW2 French officers uniform. They are very inexpensive and found regularly on the market. It is almost a duplicate copy of a Romanian officers uniform. Same cut, color and cloth. All you have to do is change the buttons and colar patches.
|Posted by: RHaught July 15, 2006 09:04 pm|
How would the uniform handle running, crawling, crouching in the field? Also, how much would you be able to complete the gear aspect of a Romanian impression at the shop?
|Posted by: RHaught July 15, 2006 09:20 pm|
This would be useful since I will be there in 4 days. Any chance of receiving some advice?
|Posted by: mihnea July 16, 2006 07:12 am|
In September this year will take place the first real reenactment in Romania (with WWI theme). Until now I never tested the WWII uniform in the field, I used only once, last year at the Military Museums Open gates, it was al living history event, however the uniformed preformed very well. I haven't been to the museum shop since May this year, so I'm unable to help you with the second question.
|Posted by: RHaught July 16, 2006 03:54 pm|
Hope you take some pictures of this? Know some WWI Associations that might be helpful if you would like some contact information for links and showing pics?
Will see what the shop has. Meeting boonicootza in Bucharest and will be heading there together. Guess I will have to see how it performs in the US during a real reenactment.
|Posted by: RHaught July 18, 2006 10:16 am|
|Ok off into the steets to see what I can find! Any suggestions on specific shops to look at?|
|Posted by: Kepi July 18, 2006 10:50 am|
Try on Covaci Street area, near Piata Unirii (“The Union Square”). There are many antique shops. I enclosed a map of the area and I noted the shops locations with a red circle. There are several. The biggest red circle, on Splaiul Independentei, particularly worth a tour.
These shops are not specialized on Militaria but sometimes you could find interesting items (cartridge pouches, communist WW2 style bread bags, canteens, mess tins).
I hope to find interesting things at the Museum shop too.
|Posted by: RHaught July 18, 2006 01:28 pm|
| Thanks Kepi
Saw 2 stores on Covaci Street that contained some items of interest. Someone showed me a badge from the Iron Guard and was asking $700 . Like a teacher can afford that even if "a museum doesn't even have it". The one on Lipscani was minimul. Will be at the museum shop tomorrow!
|Posted by: the goose July 18, 2006 07:33 pm|
are those still made and for sale ?
|Posted by: RHaught July 24, 2006 02:57 am|
| Yes uniforms are still being made and sold. Look at mihneas' post in this thread:
He shows the colors of the wool. Believe that the #4 is what is being used right now. He is looking for new wool to use. Know of people who have converted West German tunics for reenacting purposes. For boots, that is another question. Will start a new thread tomorrow on starting a reenactment group in an area of infancy. Know that here in the US now, authenticity is strict. However in the beginning, German units were using East German uniforms, gear and boots. Though not correct, they were just wanting to get started and begin growing interest. Overtime, people began to make reproduction uniforms that matched the originals.
|Posted by: mihnea July 24, 2006 02:20 pm|
| RHaught, did you bought anything from Bucharest, after all?
However I would not recommend the green cloth as it is too green, too far away from what color it should be.
|Posted by: RHaught July 24, 2006 02:30 pm|
|an ammo pouch dated 1943|
|Posted by: mihnea July 24, 2006 08:55 pm|
|Could you post some pictures of it, especially the markings, but in this thread: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1176&st=75|
|Posted by: RHaught July 24, 2006 09:22 pm|
Right now there are two choices on the uniform. Allow people to use the green wool until another source comes along or get the uniform then try to find another person to produce it (this is really hard to do since most are busy with primary forces in the US). Have seen pics of the early days of WWII here in the US and except for helmet and gear looks like the army of the DDR.
Will post pics of ammo pouch tomorrow when I will have my camera back.
|Posted by: wrmpilot September 04, 2006 12:33 am|
|Is there any way for a person in the US to contact the shop in the Muzeul Militar National - National Military Museum?|
|Posted by: Carol I September 04, 2006 11:46 am|
Write to Dragos Diaconu, http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showuser=800 on this forum.
|Posted by: RHaught July 15, 2007 04:12 pm|
|This is more appropriate for this topic so posting here. Found a source for Dutch helmets. Besides the M34 they also have the M27. What are the differences between the two? I didn't see much but for reenacting both should serve their purpose.|
|Posted by: RHaught July 17, 2007 11:13 am|
| Found two items that I am interested in. Can someone give information on the authenticity for each:
Belt Buckle on Ebay (is it late war or postwar?)
ID disc, can someone give more specifics on these? From Ebay also.
|Posted by: Claudiu1988 July 17, 2007 11:37 am|
The belt buckle is postwar and the ID disc I think is from ww2 but I am not shure.
|Posted by: RHaught July 17, 2007 01:27 pm|
Figured the buckle would be post-war. Trying to find an example of war issued buckles to make an appropriate copy for reenacting. Wouldn't post-war do fine for reenacting purposes?
|Posted by: RHaught July 17, 2007 01:32 pm|
| Here's a pic of the backside of the ID tag (from Ebay)
|Posted by: Claudiu1988 July 17, 2007 04:52 pm|
|Yes the iD TAG is ww2.|
|Posted by: 21 inf July 17, 2007 04:55 pm|
| are you shure that the buckle is from ww2?
because, in this case, I have to tell that in the platoon I was drafted, 50% of us had buckles exactly like this, in 2000 A.D.
|Posted by: RHaught July 17, 2007 04:59 pm|
buckle, id tag or both?
|Posted by: RHaught July 17, 2007 07:31 pm|
| Here is another ID tag found that is same as the German.
|Posted by: RHaught January 15, 2010 04:23 am|
|Ok believe a member of the group here in the US might have found a suitable repro belt buckle. It seems very close to the originals that have been posted. Any input on being able to use it to reenact? http://www.hessenantique.com/Hessen_Belt_Buckle_p/haige026.htm|
|Posted by: mihnea January 19, 2010 09:19 pm|
|That's a very nice belt buckle and it would work for Romanian WWII uniform, as long as you can find a belt for it.|
|Posted by: RHaught February 03, 2010 11:57 am|
It fits! A person in Indiana purchased one and it works on a regular belt he has for the impression.