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| Posted by: MaxFax October 12, 2014 03:26 pm |
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| Posted by: MaxFax October 20, 2014 05:06 am |
| Radub, can you tell us some more details about the book ?! I mean like page, drawings, photos no. format, etc. Thank you ! |
| Posted by: Radub October 21, 2014 08:29 am |
| The format is A4, hardbound, 350 pages of good quality paper and print, almost 1000 photos and illustrations (both in black&white and colour), 60 colour profiles. The book includes scale 1/48 drawings of every version. All systems and structures are described in detail using photos, manual schematics and scale drawings. Hopefully it will be released soon. Price to be announced. It will be available from Stratus, Mushroom Model Publications, Radubstore, Amazon, etc. Radu |
| Posted by: Stig Jarlevik October 21, 2014 09:42 am |
| Hi Radu While what you disclose is very interesting, my own wish is for individual details of every single aircraft built. Would the book include such a list? Friendly greetings and Best Wishes from Sweden Stig |
| Posted by: Radub October 21, 2014 09:48 am | ||
A book containing the individual records of every aircraft built would be quite large. A lot of that information would be quite bland because some planes saw little action. A list of victories and losses can be found in Dan Antoniu's book "Vanatorul I.A.R.80" published by Modelism in 2000 and the French translation published by Editions TMA. My book contains a diagram showing the manufacturing dates. Hth Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 October 22, 2014 08:25 pm |
| Wow, this is exciting! Any sort of estimate as to when it will be available, and any sort of idea as to price? Anything new about the DB equipped ones or the Gnome-Rhone 14R one? Thanks. |
| Posted by: Radub October 23, 2014 09:16 am |
| Availability and price are still to be announced. Hopefully we will find out soon. Very little is known about the planes fitted with in-line engine or Gnome-Rhone 14R engine. Whatever is known about them (very little...) is in this book, which is pretty much what was published before. Radu |
| Posted by: Agarici October 24, 2014 10:14 am |
| Congratulations, Radu B.! |
| Posted by: lancer21 October 26, 2014 02:21 pm |
| Thanks for the reply Radub. Just trying to figure out from the description, is it going to be a book aimed more at modelists (lots of drawings and details), or it will also include (and possibly re-examine and update based on new information?) the operational record of the plane during it's service in ARR? Will it contain many unseen (by the general public) pictures of the aircraft during it's manufacturing and service years? Either way looking forward to when it will be published! |
| Posted by: Radub October 26, 2014 05:58 pm |
| For the operational record, I recommend Dan Antoniu's book on the I.A.R.80. He covered all that 14 years ago. My book contains other details that Dan Antoniu did not include is his book, a lot of it is technical detail intended for modelers, but there is also historic information in the photo captions. Radu |
| Posted by: iar October 29, 2014 09:23 am |
| SOON, approx. 7 November! Price about 60 € http://www.ww-model.pl/index.php?p12669,vanator-romanian-hunter-the-i-a-r-80-and-i-a-r-81-in-ultimate-detail |
| Posted by: lancer21 October 29, 2014 09:23 pm |
| You mean in a week?! Great! To reply to Radub, first, thanks again for the details, fortunately i do have all 3 IAR-80 books published so far, in fact the romanian on was very generously given to me for free by Mr. Antoniu! Obviously, for modellers or not, any new books about IAR-80 or other romanian aircraft are very, very much welcomed. |
| Posted by: Radub October 30, 2014 08:23 am | ||
It is not a book "only" for modellers. The only "model-related" things in the book are the scale drawings. The book is detailed description of the I.A.R.80/81 looking at all versions, systems, production, how to fly the plane, how to maintain it, going all the way to photos of the bullets used. It has something for everyone. For the "historians", there are short "stories" and "histories" related to the planes or people in the photos. The truth of the matter is that it is impossible to include everything in one book. Futhermore I thought there was no need to repeat what others wrote before. Dan Antoniu and George Cicos covered beautifully the operational record in their books - I could not "improve" on what they wrote anyway, so I concentrated on the rest. Dan Antoniu, George Cicos, Razvan Bujor and Dan Melinte were a major source of information for this book, it could not have been done without them. Chances are that someone will still say that "something is missing" from this 350-page book.  Yes indeed, I have "more", but there comes a point (around 350 pages, 3 kg, maybe...) where you got to say "enough".  Hopefully the book will be launched in Telford on the 8th of November. Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 October 31, 2014 12:00 am |
| Just found this! That is MMPs official youtube page right? Btw, i think this is an absolutely fantastic idea, showing "from the distance" what the book contains (but can't read of course) yet make it even more enticing for those who really have interest in that subject. I hope i'll get this for christmas a least.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDZAEpTxwo&list=UUMkNoVp32fcwtlo8J0CJ8FQ |
| Posted by: Florin November 01, 2014 05:35 am | ||
Indeed, it has something for everyone, including engineers. A book worth buying it. A photo that is available in Google Images that shows what was left from number 411 after crash landing (with two Soviet soldiers examining it) could be a good addition for the second edition. What I find interesting in that photo is the fact that the "skin" was ripped of from the first half of the plane, but the internal components are still there: the fuel tank, the engine, the structural network of tubes etc. Honestly, from that photo I learned the location of the fuel tank. Interesting idea to have the fuel tank right above the center of pressure of the wing. This means that the resultant of the total weight of airplane does not change position versus the resultant of lift, while the tank is depleted of fuel. Also the engine protects it from frontal hits, and some components and structural parts give some protection against below hits. What I feel as a very big NO is the location right in front of the cockpit. When set on fire, could have become a flame thrower targeting the pilot seat. |
| Posted by: Radub November 01, 2014 08:32 am | ||||
Florin, I obtained the photo of 411, at good resolution, from the owner (source is credited proprly) long before it was released on the internet. That is why, unlike Google Images, in the book you will find the name of the airman and his unit as well as the story. Soon after the plane crash-landed, the airfield was occupied by the Russians who vandalised it (souvenir hunters). The fuel tank is usually placed on or around the centre of gravity on planes, usually near the wings, so that as the fuel is expended there is no major shift in the balance and no need to constantly trim the plane. Planes that have the fuel tank ahead of the pilot include the Spitfire, Hurricane, Me 262 (actually also had a fuel tank behind the pilot) and others. Is that "dangerous"? Years ago there was a discussion on another forum about the use of hydrazine on the F-16 EPU and how that is "dangerous if not handled right". The response from a pilot was "the F-16 can kill you in a thousand ways if not handled right, hydrazine us just one of them". The same applies here: leaking fuel is only one of the many ways a pilot is exposed to harm. Believe it or not, gasoline is not that easy to ignite with bullets. Google "Mythbusters shooting fuel tanks". In air warfare they use "incendiary rounds", and when that hits it makes no difference where the tank is. Radu |
| Posted by: Florin November 02, 2014 02:47 pm | ||
Does this mean Telford, Pennsylvania, USA ? Florin |
| Posted by: Radub November 02, 2014 09:14 pm | ||||
I mean the "original" Telford, the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution. Every year, on Rememberance weekend, Telford is home to the largest scale-model show in the world. Www.smwshow.com People from all over the world come there. It is the place where "future projects" are discussed and agreed. One gets a chance to meet historians, veterans , researchers, designers, businessmen. Radu |
| Posted by: Florin November 03, 2014 12:22 am | ||||
Telford, Pennsylvania is within my reach. The "original" Telford isn't. I am sorry to miss your book launching . . . and the chance to get the author's signature on the book. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 03, 2014 08:16 am | ||
The design of fuel tank position ( upper in the front) is similar with other planes of the time ( 1938) like Hawker Hurricane. And because of that IAR pilots ( like Hurricane pilots) were face and hand burned when hit in the fuel tank. The germans found the solution for Bf 109 of fuel tank position back under the seat. Also the polish designed the PZL fighters with the choice of fuel tank eject when set on fire. |
| Posted by: Florin November 04, 2014 12:14 am | ||||
Thank you, it confirms my point. The surrounding air flowing from front to rear is carrying the flames from tank (in front) to cockpit and pilot's seat (in the rear of the tank), like a real flame thrower. This is not due to "Dupa război, multi viteji se-arată" / "After the war is over, many heroes suddenly appear" or related to Columbus' egg fable. If I would have lived in those times, with what was known in those times, I would not have done that as designer. Peacetime burn deaths among Romanian airplane pilots were happening at least from the 1920's. When my grandfather was military aviation student in late 1920's, he lost two close friends at two weeks in between. According to his words, one of them was so burned that this body shrank to the size of a puppy. And those were the days of wood and canvas biplanes . . . He was actually so marked by those deaths that he quit aviation and enlisted in a mountain unit. |
| Posted by: Radub November 04, 2014 09:10 am |
| War planes are dangerous weapons. Knowing that your sword has a sharp edge that cuts everything, including you, makes you treat it with respect. Radu |
| Posted by: Radub November 11, 2014 11:45 am |
| The book was launched in Telford last week-end and it went very well. I kept going back to the publisher's stand for restock. The book is a limited edition, so if it keeps going like this, soon it will be "hard to find". The book is hardback, A4, 368 pages. It is available here: http://www.radubstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=118&products_id=471 Radu |
| Posted by: Daniel Focsa November 11, 2014 04:51 pm |
| Other's books aren't in limited editions, they are available in bookshops for years. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 12, 2014 07:11 am | ||
Good books are the one you can not find anymore in the bookshops.  |
| Posted by: Radub November 12, 2014 06:48 pm | ||
There is a massive difference between a book that is "always in print" and a book that is "always on the shelf". The book is going well. You better hurry if you want one. Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 November 13, 2014 08:34 pm |
| Ordered off Radubstore. I hope it's not of nuisance, but Radub i forgot to add instructions about delivery, preferably between 10.30AM and 4 PM (i'm not there outside of these hours). I'm the guy from Pembrokeshire, if need more details i can send a PM. Is it possible to make some little note at your end, or do i need to do something from here? Also any idea how long it takes to arrive? On another note, from the other topic should i understand you also sell mr. Antoniu's pictorial book? How much is that one, and also is that one going to have a preview made like the MMP folks do (did i mentioned it is a fantastic idea?) do on youtube, or is it possible to have a few screenshots/samples of what it contains, is it more historical or civilian or ARR orientated? I'm sure it's a very, very interesting book anyway, but unfortunately me at least i could never afford to buy every book i'd like, it's an effort as is...  ( i also saw the new book from MMP about polish aircraft in Romania, would so want that one too but i need to rob a *** bank or something to get it) Thank you very much. |
| Posted by: Radub November 13, 2014 09:04 pm |
| Lancer21, Thank you for your order. I will make a note on the label such as "please deliver between 10.30 AM and 4PM". I only had a handful of copies of Dan Antoniu's book. They are all gone. I think that the best thing to do is to contact Mr. Antoniu at the address provided. I think that is the most affordable way to get it. The YouTube presentation was created by MMP. MMP did not work with Dan Antoniu's on his other book (Illustrated History of Romanian Aeronautics), so that is why there is no video presentation for that. I will meet Mr. Antoniu in two weeks and I will suggest it to him. Dan Antoniu's "Illustrated History" book is a presentation of every aircraft used by Romania (military and civilian) from the beginning until 1945 - there are at least two photos for each aircraft, large photos, two per page. It is an "illustrated history", meaning that is closer to a photo album, but there is history in it too. The book "Polish Aircraft in Romania" by Dan Antoniu looks fantastic, I am really looking forward to it. I translated it from Romanian into English and the publisher translated it later into Polish. There was a lot of work in that, a lot of communication/clarifications between the publisher and the author (through me as a translator), lots of late-night Skype chats, making it the most polished book I ever worked on - a real labour of love for everyone involved. The edition advertised in the video is going to be in Polish, as part of MMP/Stratus's fantastic multi-volume (five volumes so far, and growing) "Encyclopaedia of Polish Aircraft". Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 November 13, 2014 10:06 pm |
| Many thanks for your reply and help Radub. If possible and can afford anytime soon, yes i will get in touch with mr. Antoniu. Meanwhile, just as a rant, on the topic of aviation books, i guess many of us look with envy at the polish folks, they really did a great job to give the attention it deserves to the aviation history and achievements in their country. There is so much left to write about ARR though (or romanian aviation in general- as unfortunately in this day and age all that history is gone, we're left with just memories) hell i was fantasizing about possible books titles like: "Romanian fighter colours 1916-1940" "Romanian bomber and reconnaissance colours 1916-1945" (basically anything else except fighters) "Romanian military aircraft prototypes and projects" (with nice, proper drawings like you did for IAR-80 and pictures- lots of them!- of things like IAR-15, IAR-16, IAR-31, IAR-47, IAR-95 and so on and so on) ...and the list can go on and on (the post war times are just as interesting, regardless of the political spectrum we were part of, the history of the MiGs and other mainly soviet aircraft in romanian service need be told too) Anyway, dreams. I realize of course that demand makes possible or not such titles, and of course it's hard to image for me the amount of work and effort necessary for the authors to write such books. Well, if i ever win the lottery... i'll get in touch Thanks again, and looking very forward to receive the book! |
| Posted by: Radub November 13, 2014 10:35 pm |
| Those books may eventually be published. ;-) You can suggest them to Mr. Antoniu. Radu |
| Posted by: Dénes November 14, 2014 05:56 am | ||
As Radu just said, such books might be written one day. There is enough information available (even if it's not 100% complete). I also have the necessary material for several titles, but currently lack the time needed to write them (one book usually needs at least a year to complete, my multi-volume book on the Hungarian Armed Forces is 20 years in the making). However, the book market is shrinking. I am not sure if there is enough interest (namely paying customers) for such niche books. I already hit this invisible "wall", which will only grow and grow. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub November 14, 2014 09:41 am |
| Books are like any other product, they cost something to produce... Profit is the lifeblood of industry. Every book that is published today is financed by the books sold before. So, those books will be published when enough funds are raised from the books we sell today. This is the fourth book published this year that I was involved with. I have two more "on the go". A lot of work goes into this... Radu |
| Posted by: Florin November 14, 2014 10:30 am |
| I do not want to look too gloomy, but the way I see the world around, it is going toward a "Fahrenheit 451" society, and it is not something enforced from top to bottom. It is going there voluntarily. I do not mean a society where the books will be literally burned - like in "Fahrenheit 451". The previous exchange of messages was about buying books. The problem is not the cost of a book - it is about the will (the desire) to read a book. Any kind of book . . . I am living in a society where the average person makes grammar mistakes almost in any sentence, skip capital letters, messes with periods and commas. A tremendous amount of time is wasted with stupid messages on Twitter and equivalent. It happened that one day I could see a row of "tweets" on somebody's smartphone. One message was: "I am walking on the street." Who gives a damn that he/she is walking on the street ? Who cares ? I guess that 95 percent of "tweets" are like this one. I saw young women who stopped right in the door of a busy access entrance of a huge bus station (i.e. Port Authority) to read their smart phone. That was right in the pedestrian flow. Other people do not use headphones at the portable devices, and they do not give a damn that they disturb anybody else. Corporate emails get mixed on smart phone with messages from blondes and red heads, and when I saw this, I understood why I did not get "cc" or "forward" with important project related messages. That person had other priorities . . . When you prove that you know too much about a subject, people label you as "weird" and usually do not want to use the opportunity to better themselves. OK, so these are the average people . . . Even much worse is to see that in almost any documentary there is at least one historical mistake, or errors of interpretation, not for nationalistic reasons, but because the screenplay author lacked the background for the deep understanding of the problem. It is simply wrong teaching. Even organizations that still retain some respect from viewers, like BBC News, occasionally make historical mistakes and present wrong historical maps. Official historical websites contain sometimes gross errors - like one from New Zealand that is maintained by history teachers of the local universities. On a website that is selling maps, and that is present day maps, the map of Ukraine was shown including Dobrogea, so Romania was with the border at Danube River. (That was about 3 years ago.) Why did I write all these ? You, Denes and Radu, already wrote many books. I dream myself to do this, when I will have time (that I guess is in the afterlife). But we live in a kind of Dark Ages world. Same like in those days when only few secluded monks read books in the monasteries, or few Maya priests kept the logs for the rest of society. Do you know that documentary "The Future Is Wild" ? I say: The future is scary !!!.) (If the teenagers + those in their 20's are our future.) |
| Posted by: Radub November 14, 2014 11:12 am |
| The world is full of all kinds of people. You probably heard the sayings "deep waters are still" and "empty can rattles the most". What they mean is that in life you tend to come across more loud idiots than quiet clever people. The internet, twitter, youtube, social media gave a global platform to all people. Those who used to be stupid in private are now able to be stupid globally. But these means of communication equally gave a platform to clever people to be clever globally. Follow one, ignore the other. The trick is to figure out which is which, and that is down to you. Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 November 19, 2014 09:32 pm |
| Just a small question, stirred by seeing a few clear pages on cartula.ro, and the even more burning desire to finally have it in my hands! I received a notification dated the 15th (last Saturday) that it has been dispatched. Roughly how long it would usually take from that point to arrival? Thank you very much. Oh and on another note, Radub you were saying you are currently working on 2 other titles, any info you can give us on them, are they about romanian aircraft or ARR too? |
| Posted by: Radub November 20, 2014 08:52 am |
| Hopefully the book will be with you soon. Delivery to UK can take anything from two days to one month. It is (literally) all in the hands of the postman and I have no control over it. I cannot tell much about the other two books I mentioned. One is about ARR and one is about a plane that was never used in Romania. Radu |
| Posted by: lancer21 November 20, 2014 07:42 pm |
| I got it today! Of course, i have hardly put it down whenever i could spare time. I think the first thing that i can say at the moment is that it's a fantastic piece of work, far more comprehensive that the previous SAM publication, a lot of new pictures reproduced in very good quality, great job and thank you to Radub and his many collaborators like mr. Antoniu, mr. Denes, the gents from Poland and many many more. |
| Posted by: MaxFax November 24, 2014 05:41 pm |
| My copy has arrived today. Indeed an impressive work !!! "The Most Famous Fighter You Never Heard Of" |
| Posted by: Florin November 29, 2014 05:30 am | ||
Hi Denes, What is the timespan intended to be covered by your history of the Hungarian Armed Forces ? I am curious, of course, otherwise I would not ask. Thank you, Florin |
| Posted by: Florin November 29, 2014 05:36 am | ||
This sentence is really smart ! Was it your idea ? |
| Posted by: Radub November 29, 2014 08:25 am | ||||
That was the original subtitle of the book. Now it is the title of the foreword.Radu |
| Posted by: Dénes November 29, 2014 02:30 pm | ||||
Basically, it covers the Horthy era (and a bit beyond): 1919-1945. I am working on the final layout, as we speak. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Florin November 29, 2014 06:49 pm | ||||||
Good luck in finalizing it ! I have no doubt that it will be interesting. I am assuming that it will be printed in English language. Florin |
| Posted by: Florin November 29, 2014 07:28 pm |
| "Amazon", were I already placed my order, accepts the money, issues the order number, but does not have yet books available for delivery. On RaduB Store is already SOLD ! On "Mushroom Model Publications" is already available under "Others". I hope that "Amazon" will not keep me waiting for too long. Update - edited post: Amazon will deliver my order in the last part of January. That is 50 days from now. |
| Posted by: Radub November 30, 2014 07:33 am | ||
I really advise you to get the book where/when you find it. If the publisher has it, get it now. I sold out my entire stock of 90 books in one week and a half. The book is a limited edition and soon it will be "rare and hard to find". http://mmpbooks.biz/mmp/books.php?book_id=267 Radu |
| Posted by: Florin December 02, 2014 03:57 am |
| Radu, a friendly honest information that you may find useful: the website of Mushroom Model Publications is quite dysfunctional. The client is filling all required inform, and yet the blue tab "Submit Order" does not activate. It is the second time I am trying it, and by the way they do not bother to answer when the client is using "Contact Us". So. . . I previously cancelled my order with "Amazon", but the way things are going with MMP, I may attempt again with Amazon an take my chances (waiting to the end of January). Regards, Florin |
| Posted by: Radub December 02, 2014 06:08 am |
| I just checked their website and I had no problems. I used Safari on the iPad and Chrome on the computer, they both worked perfectly. It seems to be straightforward, just add the book to your cart and click "checkout" at the top of the page, then follow the usual steps. There is also a "checkout with Paypal" button in the "cart" that is even simpler if you have a PayPal account. Here are the "steps"; 1) go here http://mmpbooks.biz/mmp/books.php?book_id=267 2) click "buy now" 3) click "add to cart" 4) click "view cart" or "checkout" at the top of the page 5) follow payment steps If that does not work, it may be an issue to do with firewalls or browser settings on your system. Try another browser or another machine. As for their "speed of reply" you must conside time zones. Radu |
| Posted by: Florin December 02, 2014 01:22 pm | ||
Thank you for your time and for your guidance. I already did those steps. Before I tried twice from a personal computer, now I tried from company's computer. "Submit Order" still does not activate What do they have in common is location: The U.S. You did your attempt from Europe. Also, I have shipping address different from billing address. Maybe PayPal or MMP get confused at this one. (I am trying to find a logic regarding what is going on, so this may be some reasons.) I wrote to Mushroom Model Publications 2 days ago, so it is not about the local hour. Hoping that my input is useful, Florin |
| Posted by: Radub December 02, 2014 02:26 pm |
| I honestly have no idea what website you are having trouble with. The website I am looking at is this: http://www.mmpbooks.biz/mmp/books.php?book_id=267 When you click "buy now", the website goes to another page with a button that says "add to cart". Click on that and look at the top of the page and you will see that you have an item in cart and two links "view cart" and "checkout". Click "checkout" and that will take you to the PayPal page where you can pay. I cannot see the "submit order" button anywhere, but I presume that is in PayPal. PayPal wants you to enter card information correctly, with the address matched to the card, just like your bank statement says. If you make any mistakes there, it will not work. But that is nothing that me or MMP can fix for you. Maybe MMP cannot answer you because you are making a mistake on the PayPal website not on the MMP website. This is between you and PayPal. In as far as I can see, the MMP website works perfectly. Please check your information, enter the payment details EXACTLY the way they are on your bank statement or card. PayPal will not work for you if you do not give them accurate information. Radu |
| Posted by: Jaws January 22, 2015 08:43 pm |
I just got the book last evening from that Polish mushroom.  You didn't have any stock. I ordered on the 9th and just got it.Impressive work Radu. This is a modeler's wet dream. Lot's of photos, drawings and blueprints. It's made similar with the first one, but there's a heck of a lot more stuff. I would have loved to see a bit more about performance, as this is a pretty ambiguous area of the IAR-80/81, but that doesn't make the book less awesome. I have a question about the armament. More precisely about the 13.2mm FN Browning used on the B series. There's good/plenty info in the book, but since you wrote you got some help from Mr. Jean-Francois about this guns, did you happen to have any info about the types of shells used in this gun? I contacted FN herestal few times about this but they didn't answer. What I'm interested, is if the Romanians used the high explosive shells developed by FN specifically for this aircraft version of the machine gun, before the war. They made a rather effective HE shell containing around 3.5 gram of high explosive (loaded with 2.5 gr of cristallised Tetryl and primed with 1 gr of mercury fulminate). This article from an old publication talking about this guns considered the 13.2mm FN browning with HE shells very effective aircraft gun: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1939/1939-1-%20-%201605.html Do you have any info if they used this HE shells on the IAR-80B, and if yes how were they mixed in the belt, what was the ratio between HE shells and ap, tracers. Thank you. |
| Posted by: Radub January 23, 2015 09:41 am |
| Hi Jaws, Thanks for your kind words about the book. Truth be told, I had a lot of trouble finding the information about the 13.2 FN Browning machine gun. It took a couple of months of solid "digging" and calling all favours I could. This is a rather unusual machine gun that saw quite limited use. Eventually, through contacts who knew contacts, I was put into contact with Jean Francois Legendre who very generously helped me with the photos and information. Unfortunately, on the Romanian side I managed to get very little. All I could find was that the 13.2 machine guns were initially ordered from Herstal for use on the SM 79 bombers. Also, I have a vague recollection of a thread on this forum about an AA quad set-up using 13.2 machine guns. But that is about all we know so far. Unfortunately I could not find any info about the ammunition ordered. It is quite likely the ammunition licence was purchased and then manufactured in Romania. Maybe the military archives in Pitesti have more information about the orders placed with ammunition factories. I doubt very much that FN factory has the information you need. They just made the guns. The ammunition was developed by Hotchkiss, so you may have better luck following that line of inquiry. Regards, Radu |
| Posted by: Jaws January 23, 2015 04:08 pm |
| Thank you Radu. Yeah. That Aircraft FN Browning is an elusive beast. FN only made high explosive shells for the aircraft version. The land mounted AA pieces most likely never got that ammo. That's why I'm curious, if the Romanians got that ammo for it, or they loaded the guns with the ammo they had for the Hotchkiss AAA guns. BTW. I had no idea about this new book. I visit your store regularly. When you bring out new books, specially limited edition stuff, you should post about it in advance on your site, so people know it's coming. I would have loved a signed copy, like the first one. I missed your release, so I got it from the publisher immediately. I didn't want to end up like with the "IAR 80 ”le Heros meconnu". I'm still kicking myself and looking for that one in vain. Anyway. Awesome book. Congrats. |
| Posted by: Radub January 24, 2015 11:00 am |
| Hi Jaws, Thanks again. The book was available in my store but they sold out in about one week. I am going to have a few for sale again in the near future. The biggest problem was storage, but in the next couple of weeks we are moving the store into a larger premises with enough storage room and I should be able to store/sell it again. Radu |
| Posted by: Florin January 25, 2015 01:46 am | ||
It is interesting that Amazon jumped into accepting orders for your book, but I do not know how their system works. I placed my order at the end of November. They promised the delivery by the end of January, then they asked my approval to postpone the delivery for an undetermined date. To say the whole truth, they do not charge the credit card before being able to deliver the book. |
| Posted by: Radub January 25, 2015 09:03 am |
| I told you before, get it from the publisher. Get it now! This is a limited edition and when it is gone it is gone and then you will have to pay three-times the price on eBay. They are selling fast. I cannot speak for Amazon, I have no idea what they are doing. Here is the link to the store http://mmpbooks.biz/mmp/books.php?book_id=267 Radu |
| Posted by: Florin February 20, 2015 06:59 pm |
| My book arrived today from Amazon - nicely packed, in good condition. At this point in time, I already forgot about my order. PS: The guys from MMP are aware that some users from the U.S. cannot go through with their orders on their website, but that's all: they are aware. I did not notice a will to solve the problem. |
| Posted by: Radub February 22, 2015 04:40 pm |
| You also had trouble with my website. I think you are doing something that PayPal does not like, because it is actually PayPal that turns you down, not the website. Radu |
| Posted by: Antoniu February 26, 2016 04:19 pm |
| The book is available at a price of 250 lei. rdanantoniu@gmail.com |