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Posted by: cainele_franctiror October 12, 2011 06:51 pm

In two weeks will be available MISIUNI DE SACRIFICIU by Alexandru Arma & Sorin Turturica, Editura Militara.

Cost around 20 RON, AFAIK

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Posted by: Fratello October 12, 2011 07:04 pm
More about this book. I ll post in Romanian.

Cartea ,,MISIUNI DE SACRIFICIU: GRUPUL 1 VANATOARE IN APARAREA TERITORIULUI NATIONAL (APRILIE-IUNIE 1944), publicata de Editura Militara, va fi lansata oficial in cadrul Salonului de Carte Militara „Polemos” (26-29 OCTOMBRIE 2011). Lucrarea are aproximativ 300 de pagini, fiind bogat ilustrata (circa 100 de fotografii) si cu multe informatii (tabele, harti, documente originale, memorii etc.) desprea activitatea Grupului 1 Vanatoare aflat pe aerodromul de la Rosiorii de Vede. Prefata lucrarii este semnata de domnul prof. dr. Valeriu Avram. Din aceasta prefata redam urmatorul fragment :

Cartea semnată de Alexandru Armă si Sorin Turturică are toate ingredientele pentru a da contur unui asemenea eveniment: reconstituie un episod putin cunoscut – actiunile Grupului 1 Vânătoare în primăvara si vara anului 1944 –, este bazată pe o amplă cercetare a arhivelor militare si a surselor bibliografice si rememorează faptele de arme, unele eroice, ale pilotilor de vânătoare români într-o confruntare inegală cu aviatia de luptă americană, superioară tehnic si covârsitoare numeric. Suntem de aceea convinsi că lucrarea celor doi tineri cercetători va fi bine primită nu numai de comunitatea istoricilor militari si de „nucleul dur” al fanilor cărtii de aviaţie, ci si de un public mai larg, dornic să afle adevărul despre momente ale istoriei noastre învăluite în legendă, asa cum este bombardamentul din 4 aprilie 1944 asupra Bucurestiului.

Posted by: MMM October 13, 2011 09:47 am
This certainly seems interesting!

Posted by: ocoleanui October 14, 2011 06:37 am
Where there is Salonul „Polemos” 26-29 OCTOMBRIE 2011 ???
Thanks !

Posted by: muggs October 14, 2011 09:52 am
It's at Galeria Artelor din Palatul Cercului Militar National

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?q=Cercul+Militar+Na%C5%A3ional,+Bucure%C8%99ti,+Rom%C3%A2nia&hl=en&ie=UTF8&cid=4908736564817318161

Posted by: Imperialist October 14, 2011 10:36 am
QUOTE (ocoleanui @ October 14, 2011 06:37 am)
Where there is Salonul „Polemos” 26-29 OCTOMBRIE 2011 ???
Thanks !

I hope Editura Militara will post a detailed programme of the event like it did last year.

Posted by: ocoleanui October 23, 2011 12:01 pm
http://www.edituramilitara.ro/portofoliu.php?sectiune=salon_carte_p

Posted by: Fratello October 23, 2011 06:41 pm
The Contens of the book Misiuni de sacrificiu:

CUVÂNT ÎNAINTE
MULȚUMIRI
ROMÂNIA ȘI CE DE-AL DOILEA RĂZBOI MONDIAL
BOMBARDIERUL B-24 LIBERATOR POATE AJUNGE LA PLOIEȘTI!
AERODROMUL DE LÂNGĂ ROȘIORII DE VEDE
GRUPUL 1 VÂNĂTOARE LA ROȘIORII DE VEDE
PRIMA LUPTĂ, PRIMELE VICTORII AERIENE
PRIMA JERFĂ
BOMBELE CAD ȘI DE PAȘTE...
TERIBILA ZI
TREI ZILE DE FOC
GRUPUL 1 VÂNĂTOARE ÎMPOTRIVA 1ST FIGHTER GROUP
ULTIMA ZI A PRIMĂVERII
INAMICUL SCHIMBĂ TACTICA
CADE COMANADANTUL!
ULTIMA LUPTĂ, ULTIMELE JERFE
GRUPUL 1 VÂNĂTOARE IESE DIN LUPTĂ
CE A URMAT
ANEXE



Posted by: Fratello October 23, 2011 07:16 pm
The official release of the book ,,MISIUNI DE SACRIFICIU" will be on 27.10.2011, 17:00 at Galeria Artelor a Cercului Mili­tar Naţional.

For more details check here:

http://www.edituramilitara.ro/portofoliu.php?sectiune=salon_carte_p

Posted by: Fratello October 25, 2011 08:14 pm
http://www.edituramilitara.ro/shopping/misiuni-de-sacrificiu-grupul-1-vanatoare-in-apararea-teritoriului-national-aprilie-iunie-1944-228.html

Posted by: Ferdinand October 28, 2011 01:31 pm
I have the book, bought from book fair at Cercul Militar Bucuresti. It is very interesting and i'm glad that so many people put interest in collaborating with the autors, helping with data and pictures.

Congratulation!!...imo it is an important piece completing the road of publications on ARR history.

Posted by: muggs October 28, 2011 02:02 pm
Can it be bought also from the small bookshop there ?

Posted by: Mihai Popteanu November 11, 2011 08:09 pm

I just read the book. It's a book that deserves all the attention from the aviation history enthusiasts. Very well documented .
Congratulations to the authors!

Posted by: muggs November 11, 2011 10:10 pm
I ordered it online but for some reason i never got a confirmation or the book...will try to go and pick it up personally.

Posted by: Fratello June 24, 2012 07:53 pm
The book is already sold out.

Here you can read the review made by Acad. Florin Constantiniu in ,,Istorie si Civizilatie" magazine (nr. 30/March 2012). Unfortunately, he passed away on 14 April 2012. We have the deepest respect for him.

http://www.isciv.ro/editorial/vanatori-pe-cerul-romaniei-de-acad-florin-constantiniu

Posted by: muggs June 24, 2012 08:49 pm
Congrats for the "sellout" ! Will read it myself soon enough

Posted by: Vranceanu June 27, 2012 05:22 pm
I know one of the autors. Sorin Turturica is a very good historian of romanian aviation. I don't know who is Alexandru Arma, I never heared about him.

Posted by: Fratello July 01, 2012 10:46 am
Good news! There are strong chances that this autumn the book "Missions of sacrifice" will be republished in an updated version.


Posted by: muggs July 01, 2012 11:32 am
Would love to see more pics if it's possible ! smile.gif

Posted by: Fratello July 21, 2012 07:42 am
http://www.zf.ro/ziarul-de-duminica/asii-aviatiei-militare-de-ziarul-de-duminica-9890926

Posted by: Fratello June 02, 2013 03:30 pm
Second (and revised) edition of the book is now available.

http://www.edituramilitara.ro/shopping/misiuni-de-sacrificiu-grupul-1-vanatoare-in-apararea-teritoriului-national-aprilie-iunie-1944-editia-a-ii-a-264.html

Posted by: Vranceanu June 02, 2013 04:17 pm
I expect the second tome of "Teleormanul si aeronautica" since 5 years. I only ask if for the second tome the introduction will be also writen by the mayor of Rosiorii de Vede, or not.............. biggrin.gif
This is the question.

Posted by: Fratello June 02, 2013 04:47 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 02, 2013 04:17 pm)
I expect the second tome of "Teleormanul si aeronautica" since 5 years. I only ask if for the second tome the introduction will be also writen by the mayor of Rosiorii de Vede, or not.............. biggrin.gif
This is the question.

BTW Mr. Focsa, I expect from you a ,,real book" about Dan Vizanty written by yourselef not by Dan Vizanty and Ana Maria Vizanti.

Posted by: cainele_franctiror June 02, 2013 05:21 pm
Mr. Focsa, when you will publish your first book, let us know...

If you can write one...

Can you? That's the question...

Posted by: cainele_franctiror June 02, 2013 05:45 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 27, 2012 05:22 pm)
I know one of the autors. Sorin Turturica is a very good historian of romanian aviation. I don't know who is Alexandru Arma, I never heared about him.

Mr. Focsa, I like what you said here about me. Anyway, if you don't know who is Alex Arma, you don't know much about who is writing aviation history in Romania. Just read his last book about 1943 Ploiesti Raid (the other author of this book is Valeriu Avram)

Posted by: Vranceanu June 02, 2013 07:46 pm
Why you attack me so fast, I only asked if the mayor of Rosiorii de Vede, who has written the introduction to your book in 2008, will write again for the second volume.

I remember the same year, in 2008, I was publishing a book with an introduction written by Neagu Djuvara.

This is the... answer.

Posted by: Vranceanu June 02, 2013 08:55 pm
QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ June 02, 2013 05:45 pm)
if you don't know who is Alex Arma, you don't know much about who is writing aviation history in Romania.

biggrin.gif Really ?????

You have a great sense of humour
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fratello June 02, 2013 08:58 pm
Mr Focsa I don't know why do you insist in your stupid "vendetta " with Sorin Turturica and what do you want to prove. With your every action against Sorin Turturica you just show us your frustration. I think you are jealous on his work, especially on his last book - ,,Aviatoarele Romaniei". If you want to prove something, writte a better book if you can. If no see of your business and let us to do our job.

PS> I remember you also that in the introduction of your book ,,Dan Vizanty. Destinul unui pilot de vânătoare", Mr Neagu Djuvara gave you a history lesson about 23 august 1944 events. I qoute from you book: ,,Vine însă dramatica zi de 23 august 1944. Aici voi face o critică severă - nu Doamne ferește, lui Vizanty, ci autorului nostru, Daniel Focșa..." (p.10).

Posted by: Vranceanu June 02, 2013 09:14 pm
Did I said something about "Aviatoarele Romaniei ?"
I didn't read this book, so how can be "gelous" ? Believe me, I couldn't be gelous to a book written by Mr Turturica smile.gif

About Neagu Djuvara, yes, he didn't agree my vision about 23 august, so what ? He liked my book and has written 6 pages of introduction. I was honoured evan by his critics.

Posted by: Vranceanu June 03, 2013 12:05 am
QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ June 02, 2013 05:21 pm)
Mr. Focsa, when you will publish your first book, let us know...

If you can write one...

Can you? That's the question...

But do you really know what a book is ? A good one ? Do you ever heard about analysis, synthesis, critical thinking ? All you have written since now are chains of facts and documents, very very boring like style, which in fact, doesn't exist in your books.
I recomand you to read some historians like Charles Diehl or Steven Runciman to see what is really a history book.

Posted by: Radub June 03, 2013 08:03 am
Think of Alex Kdl and how attention was the fuel that kept the fire burning. Cut off the fuel supply. It may burn for a while, then smoulder, but eventually it will fizz and wither to a faint puff.
Radu

Posted by: MMM June 03, 2013 11:24 am
QUOTE (Radub @ June 03, 2013 11:03 am)
Think of Alex Kdl and how attention was the fuel that kept the fire burning. Cut off the fuel supply. It may burn for a while, then smoulder, but eventually it will fizz and wither to a faint puff.
Radu

Wishful thinking... "What we have here is failure to communicate" (and so on)...
There are two guys in here crossing (s)words, so I'd think a moderator should step in.

Posted by: Ferdinand June 03, 2013 11:25 am
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 27, 2012 05:22 pm)
I don't know who is Alexandru Arma, I never heared about him.

it is Sorin Turturica's secret weapon! wink.gif

Posted by: Fratello June 03, 2013 03:34 pm
QUOTE (seeker @ June 03, 2013 11:25 am)
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 27, 2012 05:22 pm)
I don't know who is Alexandru Arma, I never heared about him.

it is Sorin Turturica's secret weapon! wink.gif

biggrin.gif

Posted by: Fratello June 03, 2013 03:36 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ June 03, 2013 08:03 am)
Think of Alex Kdl and how attention was the fuel that kept the fire burning. Cut off the fuel supply. It may burn for a while, then smoulder, but eventually it will fizz and wither to a faint puff.
Radu

You are right, Radu.

Posted by: Fratello June 03, 2013 03:42 pm
My comment maybe wasn't noticed so I'll repeat it again.


Second (and revised) edition of the book is now available.

http://www.edituramilitara.ro/shopping/mis...a-ii-a-264.html

Posted by: Dénes June 04, 2013 02:12 pm
Can you tell us in what the updates consist?
I would like to see if the new edition is worth purchasing.

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: Fratello June 04, 2013 04:43 pm
QUOTE (Dénes @ June 04, 2013 02:12 pm)
Can you tell us in what the updates consist?
I would like to see if the new edition is worth purchasing.

Gen. Dénes

New cover, some text updates and new photos...and the same price.

Posted by: Vranceanu June 04, 2013 05:11 pm
I think Mr Denes asked in what consist more precisely the text updates... I don't think somebody is interested to buy the same book for a new cover (evan the cover includes Florin Constantiniu's applaudations for the authors....).

Posted by: cainele_franctiror June 04, 2013 06:00 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 04, 2013 05:11 pm)
I think Mr Denes asked in what consist more precisely the text updates... I don't think somebody is interested to buy the same book for a new cover (evan the cover includes Florin Constantiniu's applaudations for the authors....).

Thank you for your opinion! Is very important for us!

Posted by: Fratello June 04, 2013 06:45 pm
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 04, 2013 05:11 pm)
I think Mr Denes asked in what consist more precisely the text updates... I don't think somebody is interested to buy the same book for a new cover (evan the cover includes Florin Constantiniu's applaudations for the authors....).

Mr Focsa we dind't know that you're so interested of our book. This is a good sign. Maybe one day you ll appreciate us.

Posted by: Radub June 04, 2013 08:35 pm
They say that "success is the best form of revenge". Keep writing, we need as many books on Romanian aviation as we can get. wink.gif
Radu

Posted by: Fratello June 05, 2013 01:37 pm
I agree with you, Radu.

Posted by: Victor November 15, 2013 05:54 pm
A number of posts were deleted.

Vranceanu, if you have something of value to add to this topic, please do. If you want another flame war with Fratello and cainele_franctiror, all posts will be deleted.
Thank you.

Posted by: Agarici November 15, 2013 06:57 pm
QUOTE (Radub @ June 04, 2013 08:35 pm)
They say that "success is the best form of revenge". Keep writing, we need as many books on Romanian aviation as we can get. wink.gif
Radu


"Revenge is a dish best served cold", as Worf used to say biggrin.gif

Posted by: Vranceanu November 15, 2013 08:43 pm
QUOTE (Victor @ November 15, 2013 05:54 pm)
A number of posts were deleted.

Vranceanu, if you have something of value to add to this topic, please do. If you want another flame war with Fratello and cainele_franctiror, all posts will be deleted.
Thank you.

Well, sorry I don't post something of value. I am too busy to publish history books, so I am quite rare on forums.

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