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|Posted by: scorpio September 27, 2014 08:31 pm|
| A second attempt. After 1/48.
|Posted by: ionionescu September 28, 2014 07:37 am|
|Posted by: scorpio September 28, 2014 11:03 am|
| My entire ARR collection.
|Posted by: ionionescu September 30, 2014 09:45 am|
|Posted by: Florin September 30, 2014 05:16 pm|
|Was any toy (model) manufacturer willing to replicate the Romanian version of the licensed Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 ?|
|Posted by: Radub October 01, 2014 08:04 am|
| Azur FRROM, the company who produced this kit, also produces other Romanian subjects, such as SM-79 (radial and in-line engine), PZL P-11, PZL P-24, IAR 39, Fleet, and more to come. The owner, a Frenchman, is a very nice guy and has a special interest in Romanian aviation - he has close ties with the French magazine Air Magazine that regularly covers Romanian aviation subjects. They are very interesting people with a passion for Romanian aviation.
|Posted by: Florin October 01, 2014 03:40 pm|
| Good Morning Radu,
When I wrote "the Romanian version of the licensed Savoia-Marchetti SM.79" I meant the version with 2 engines, designed by the Romanian engineers.
I would not have one moment of doubt that the famous original Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 (with 3 engines) was already created by the model/toy manufacturers.
So, you meant that Azur FRROM created the scale model for the 2 engines version ?
|Posted by: Radub October 02, 2014 07:42 am|
| Florin, yes, when I said Azur FRROM makes "Romanian subjects including SM-79" I meant the SM-79 used by Romania.
Romania never used the "three-engine" version. At first the SM-79 were powered by two I.A.R.14K radials and later they were powered by two in-line water-cooled Jumo engines. Azur FRROM makes both engine versions, I have the kits, they are the Romanian versions.
"FRROM" is an abbreviation for "FRance ROMania", and they cover Romanian subjects.
By the way, the "design" of the SM-79 was not "done by Romanian engineers" - let us not pollute this topic with Savoia Marchetti stuff, but I.A.R. built the SM-79 under licence and the two-engine version was designed in Italy (some even saw service in Italy). The only thing "made" in Romania was airframe construction and the engine I.A.R.14K, which itself was a licence-built Gnome Rhone Mistral Major. According to the licence contract, all modifications had to also involve the licensor, the owner of the design, respectively Savoia Marchetti. When the Jumo engines were installed, the designation was changed to JRS meaning "Junkers Romania Savoia" to indicate all parties involved.
|Posted by: MaxFax October 02, 2014 08:21 am|
| Great job Scorpio !!
Radu, you seem to be close to FRROM team. Can you tell us if Savoia S55 will be a future project ?! Some time ago there was such rumours ...
|Posted by: Cantacuzino October 02, 2014 08:24 am|
[QUOTE]Was any toy (model) manufacturer willing to replicate the Romanian version of the licensed Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 ? [QUOTE]
|Posted by: Radub October 02, 2014 04:53 pm|
I hope to meet them in Telford, I will ask them but... most manufacturers "keep their cards close to their chest" so they may not tell me or they may tell me with the proviso that I cannot tell anyone else. We shall see.
There was a 1/72 S.55 kit from Delta 2, they show up on eBay every now and then.
|Posted by: Florin October 03, 2014 04:58 pm|
Call it a "honest mistake". I would not have written this if I would have known otherwise.
|Posted by: Florin October 13, 2014 03:52 am|
| Hello "scorpio",
I liked your IAR 81C model from the very first moment you had shown it to us.
Was the landing gear included in the kit you bought, or you ordered it as a separate item ?
The reason of my question:
"Hannants" is recommending that alongside with Frrom-Azur FR8001, the interested person should also buy "Scale Aircraft Conversions SAC32087", which is "IAR-81C Rumanian fighter Landing Gear (designed to be used with Frrom-Azur kits)", seemingly made of metal.
So, is there any good reason to also buy this separate landing gear ?
|Posted by: Cantacuzino October 13, 2014 10:38 am|
The kit include the landing gear and it's ok. The only thing would be nice to have from metal ( photetched) are the landing gear doors (wich are to thick) and cockpit interior details.
The Scale Aircraft Conversions SAC32087 ( with 17 $ ) made the landing gear and the tailskid from white metal.
|Posted by: scorpio October 15, 2014 09:59 am|
| The only exception for extra parts were Radu Branzan seatbelts, otherwise, everything is from the kit. I had no reason to use other landing gear.
|Posted by: Florin December 31, 2014 03:30 am|
| What adhesive you would recommend as having the best adherence for the plastic used by FRROM / the Czechs for this kit ?
Having the name of the basic material(s) may be even more useful than generic brand names, because the latter may differ from one continent to another.
I noticed this YouTube video that's right for this topic:
|Posted by: scorpio December 31, 2014 09:23 am|
I successfully used the glue from Tamiya. Extra Thin Cement.
|Posted by: Radub December 31, 2014 09:35 am|
| In as far as I recall, you are in New York. There is a model shop in Manhattan on 23 W 45 St (downstairs, in the basement), not far from Grand Central, called The Red Caboose. It is mainly a train model shop but they have some plastic models too. Ask them for "plastic cement". Testors or Tamiya are some popular brands.
You can get "plastic cement" online from Squadron http://www.squadron.com/model-cement-s/2523.htm
|Posted by: Florin January 01, 2015 12:32 am|
| Thank you all for your answers, and . . .
A Happy New Year !
(In this moment, for me is still 2014 ...)
|Posted by: dragos January 02, 2015 08:37 am|
|Yeah, Tamyia extra thin is good but takes a little to get used to it if you haven't used liquid glues before (it evaporates very quickly if you don't keep the parts to be glued in contact). I have also used Tamyia Limonene (with lemon flavor ) that is supposed not to be so irritating due to the fumes and is a bit thicker than the extra thin.|
|Posted by: Florin January 04, 2015 09:17 pm|
I think the best approach for any new adhesive is to test it first on something different from the irreplaceable components of a kit.
|Posted by: Bernard Miclescu January 05, 2015 09:27 pm|
Florin, the frrom only produced the JRS and JIS models, not the SM 79 with radial engines.
10 or 15 years ago, i found a mixkit - an ancient SM 79 3 engines from airfix with some plastic pieces to create the twin engine bomber. It is called Novart, and it is french. I will build it on day. So, for me , this is the only SM 79 radial twin engine bomber that exists in kit.
Happy new year!
|Posted by: scorpio February 18, 2015 08:56 pm|
| another 81