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| I agree with C-2, it's not Stinghe. |
Ok.
It doesn't matter so much the pilot I.D.
But the BF-109 in the picture is "yellow 14" and helps for better I.D. ( wheels G-2 model).
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| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 08:48 am |
| A nice color profile of Bf 109 G-2 "yellow 14" flown by Lt.Stinghe Dragos in spring '45. This particular Bf109G was an ex. 9/JG 77 plane with "wolf head" unit emblem under the cockpit. Artwork Dan Melinte. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 08:53 am |
| Dragos Stinghe in the cockpit of "yellow 14". Note the JG 77 unit emblem (Wander ZirKus Ubben ) . Courtesy Dragos Stinghe. http://imageshack.us For more info about Lt.Dragos Stinghe try this link http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=737 |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 08:55 am | ||
And a color close up of the JG 77 emblem. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 08:58 am |
| Dragos Stinghe with Milu near "yellow 14". Courtesy Dragos Stinghe. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 09:01 am |
| Yellow 14 http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 09:03 am |
| "yellow 14". http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Dénes November 20, 2005 04:17 pm |
| 'Yellow 14' was in fact a G-2 previously flown by 9./JG 77. It crash landed SE of Mizil in January 1944 and was sent at ASAM-Pipera to be repaired. Interestingly, the same constr. no. was also assigned to a Bf 109Ga-2 assembled at I.A.R. Brasov. Was that airplane later on assigned to the Luftwaffe? Or is it simply a typo? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 November 20, 2005 06:55 pm | ||
That's not Dragos Stinghe! I belive it's Stefan Ciutac. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 20, 2005 10:09 pm | ||
Are you sure ? Ciutac was a small guy. Dragos Stinghe was a tall guy compare with other pilots. In this picture the pilot looks like no chance to fit in to the small cockpit of his Bf 109G. Who could be this pilot ? Agarici ? |
| Posted by: C-2 November 21, 2005 01:02 pm |
| Not 100% it is Ciutac (it may not be him) But 100% it is not Stinghe (the forehead is dif.and Stinghe is/was blonde). |
| Posted by: Dénes November 21, 2005 02:44 pm |
| I agree with C-2, it's not Stinghe. There were many not well known fighter pilots in the re-formed Gr. 1 vân., he might be one of them. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 03:13 pm | ||
Ok. It doesn't matter so much the pilot I.D. But the BF-109 in the picture is "yellow 14" and helps for better I.D. ( wheels G-2 model). |
| Posted by: Dénes November 21, 2005 03:37 pm | ||
Of course. Because it was a G-2! Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub November 21, 2005 06:01 pm |
| Very interesting pictures. I have the following questions: - In the top picture, near the left edge of the picture, one can see the last two letters of a word (right above the red D, in "D. M. Collection"). Any idea what that word was? - In the photo with a group of people in front of the plane, one can see what appers to be two white squares with black shadows painted on the engine cowl. Any idea what was their meaning? - And finally, the roundel appears to be painted on a white square. Were the wing roundels painted on white squares as well? Radu |
| Posted by: Dénes November 21, 2005 06:33 pm |
| Valid observations, Radu. None of those details are depicted in the colour profile. The letters you mentioned look to me like 'Ril' and are possibly part of a name, while the white cubes could possibly be dices? Notice also that the unit slogan is actually overpainted in the photo, unlike on the artist's profile. And so on... Finally, the very dirty look of the airplane (oil spills all over, mud, fumes, etc.) is noteworthy. A real challenge even for an experienced modeller. Perhaps another project for you?  Anyhow, more research is needed to accurately depict this particular 'recycled' Gustav. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub November 21, 2005 07:40 pm | ||
Yes, very much so. I was very inspired by the pictures and by the profile. That was why I was asking for the extra info. BTW, if those were dices, any idea what the "draw" may be? 6-6? (as in "check six") Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 09:44 pm | ||
Radu, because this color profile is not so much detailed and not depict corectly the real "yellow 14", I strongly advice to choose one of the best color profile of romanian Bf 109 G the "yellow 3". Unfortunetly I don't remember the source (Mayby Osprey ?).  It's very well documented and represent 100% the real plane.  http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 09:57 pm | ||||
The name written under cockpit was probably the girl friend, wife or petdog of ex 9/JG 77 pilot who flew this particular Bf-109. So the only one who can help you ( for the detective work) to find this pilot from 9/JG 77 is Denes. I attached a close up with the last visible letters from this name. It could be ..Ril but also ...RA (like Werra ?) http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:19 pm | ||
This was the ideea when i posted this color profile. As an inspiration for future modelers projects. I didn't post it for critics. I'm not payed like some authors of published profiles Only one side color profile it's never enough for a modeller but the dreams are starting with.  The reserch it'a long story and hard work. That why i post pictures from different angles and sources. As a modeller you will never get correct answers to all your questions ( only if someone invented the "time machine "  )Most of the time you will use the experience and "educated guess" to solve your issue as close as posible. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:30 pm | ||
http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:33 pm | ||
unit emblem close up http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:41 pm | ||
http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:43 pm | ||
http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Radub November 21, 2005 10:44 pm |
| Hi Cantacuzino, When I asked my questions I was only looking for help with an eventual model. No criticism intended. Do you know whether the square white panels under the roundels were applied to the wings as well? (For example, is there a precedent: were there any such panels on other planes?) Thanks for the info supplied so far. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 10:47 pm | ||
I don't have any clue for this dices ( that why i didn't painted on the color profile) For me looks very strange like square objects in the air with shadows on the fuselage  http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Radub November 21, 2005 10:50 pm |
| The more I look at them, the less I beleive those are "dice". May be some sort of marking. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 21, 2005 11:00 pm | ||
I was not talking about you. We are both from the same family of modellers.And you know why I started a thread like this ( for onest debate and not for eye critics) As for the white square on the wings. If I will go back in time as the " Painter" i will paint all the german markings with the same paint( white) because is more practic. Using white paint for cover old markings was not a common issue. It was rarely used. Most of the coverings were done with dark color (green or dark grey) |
| Posted by: Dénes November 22, 2005 01:43 am |
| Cantacuzino, First and foremost, if you cannot handle valid criticism, don't post. No post = no problem. However, if you still post, then be prepared for criticism from anyone, including myself. Try to defend your position by using proofs and solid arguments, not feelings, upsets, etc. Second, modelling and history cannot be separated. First comes history then modelling based on historical data (as much as it's available). Third, I don't believe in colour artwork. Anyone can draw up pretty pictures, which may or may not be historically accurate (usually not) and can generate endless debates. Fourth and final, I am posting corrections and additions on this forum, including your numerous posts, whenever it's necessary and I have info about, and not because of any personal vendetta or similar things you might imagine. Simply, I am not into this. I am into writing about and clarifying details connected to the history of Rumanian aviation and history in general. Period. Now let's get back to business and try to sort out the details of this intriguing machine, as much as we can. Shall we? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes November 22, 2005 02:12 am | ||
If you have any comments regarding this profile, open a new thread, don't mix up stuff here. I will hapily convey your criticism to John Weal, the profile's author, along with your name and e-mail address, so he can reply to you directly if he wishes so. Gen. Dénes P.S. I see that the profile of Yellow 14 published above was created by Dan Melinte, so please convey my corrections to him. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Dénes November 22, 2005 02:32 am | ||||
The German pilot's name was Uffz. Rolf Olejniczak. It could be a significant clue. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Dénes November 22, 2005 02:37 am | ||
I hopped on my time machine and snapped a photo so the airplane's wings would be visible. It turned out that the Rumanian mechanics didn't even bother to paint over the Balkenkreuz on the wings with the same white paint! They simply painted the ARR roundels besides the Luftwaffe markings, covering it only partially (see scan). It's yet another fine example why logic doesn't always work when dealing with history. It's the documents, photos and other primary sources one should base his judgement upon... Gen. Dénes  |
| Posted by: Dénes November 22, 2005 02:42 am |
| Here is another photo of the well-worn 'Yellow 14' with the same mystery pilot riding on it. It turns out that he is squadron commander Lt. av. Mircea "Shoto" Teodorescu of Gr. 1 vân. Gen. Dénes P.S. By looking at this photo, I am wondering if the airplane's fuselage, around and under the cockpit, was overpainted with light grey or white since the photo with Stinghe in the cockpit was taken...  |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 06:47 am | ||
I said I wanted an onest debate not simple eye critics (easy for 4 years old boy). I posted this color profile for some time and you didn't contribute from the begin with data and info (that you allready have it). You just waited that sombody else was interested and asked questions about more details for the plane( not for the artwork) and you start critics the artwork instead to tell Radu that you have more pictures and data for this Bf-109 that will help him for the next project. This kind of behavior it's not an onest issue. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 06:53 am | ||||
If somebody keep in safe place the proof (the picture) and don't like to show them from the begin . |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 07:16 am | ||
I just offer Radu another alternative for better color profile artworks for romanian Bf 109G on west front based on the fact that author of the book was better historically documented. The color profile painter use the info given by the book author and not from the editor. Anyway i will remove and start a new thread for this nice "yellow 3 " with an onest debate for the artwork using valid proof ( could be an alternative for Radu future project) |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 07:26 am | ||
Believe it or not. Like it or not. It's a part from a modeller life. The historically part some times is boring with out the flashing color artworks of the wonderfull artists like Watanabe, James Dietz, Thiery Decker and so on. Allways the dream of a modeller start with pilot stories and nice color profiles.  |
| Posted by: Radub November 22, 2005 09:37 am |
| Thanks Canatcuzino and Denes, the photos you added in the meantime are excellent. After looking at the photos, I noticed that "something is going on" around the nose panels: there are obvious colour differences demarcated by the panel lines. Engine cowls have a mottle pattern that is different from that of the fuselage. The panel above the gun breeches appears to be one single dark colour and again does not match any of the adjacent colurs. I believe that these were cannibalised from another airframe. The picture that shows the upper surfaces is interesting too: Note the right wingtip painted white. Note that the left wing flap appears to be a replacement. This is a Frankenschmitt! I love it. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 02:52 pm | ||
Both wingtips should be painted in white as ID markings used on west front. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 03:03 pm | ||
Probably it's no more a G-2 now it turn out to be an upgraded version to G-4 standard and found in documents as "Frankenschmitt 109 G-4" ( with new wires and switches from canibalised G-4 and G-6) |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 03:09 pm |
| Ufzz. Rolf Olejniczak 9/JG77. Source " La chasse de jour allemande en Roumanie" Jean Louis Roba-Erich Mombeek. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Radub November 22, 2005 04:48 pm | ||
Hi Cantacuzino, You are right of course. What I meant was that only the wingtip was painted white - the white segment does not stretch over some of the aileron as was the norm. Pity none of the photos show the underside of the wingtip so that we could see how far inboard the white element stretches. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 11:42 pm | ||
White segment streching over some aileron was not standard for all Bf 109 on west front. Many of them had only the wing tips painted in white (like "yellow 14") Below you have more examples of only wingtips painted white. Courtesy D.M coll. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 22, 2005 11:54 pm | ||
The name written under the cokpit is "Monika" the girlfriend of Rolf Olejnikczak. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 12:03 am | ||
"Yellow 14" was in fact an ex 9/JG77 Bf-109 G-2 "Yellow 10" wnr.14638 damaged 40% in a crash landing S.E. Mizil on 18 january '44. The plane was the personal mount of Rolf Olejniczak with his girl friend name "Monika" written under the cokpit. After repair in ASAM it was delivered to romanian units. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 12:09 am | ||
And the story of why Rolf Olejniczak divorced "Monika" and give it to romanians for riding her Source : " La chasse de jour allemande en Roumanie" Jean Louis Roba-Erich Mombeek. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Dénes November 23, 2005 12:14 am |
| The story now appears to be complete. Radu, we've done our best, it's your turn now. Take your kit out of its box and start working... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 06:36 am |
| And Radu, If you are a good boy and start doing this nice project, you will get a bonus ( a Christmass present ). A copy of Dragos Stinghe book and the color profile of his mount "yellow 14", both with his signature. Happy modelling, Dan. |
| Posted by: C-2 November 23, 2005 09:54 am |
| I just have spoken with Stinghe. He will look in his log book. But there's a posib.that this particular plane was at his squad for dif. testings. Since he also was a member os a test squad. He'll tell us tonight what G was it and what wn. |
| Posted by: Radub November 23, 2005 10:20 am | ||
Now, that is what I call pressure! OK, it is a deal. This will be my next project. I have one more question: Can you please confirm that there was no cockpit ventilation port on the cockpit side? (It should be somewhere in the area of the wolf's nose in that badge). That is important because it affects the layout of the cockpit. (This was a feature of 109 G2s - intended for dusty/sandy theatres of operation, such as desert or steppes etc.) I can see where the umbrella mounts were removed, but I cannot see the ventilation port. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 11:37 am | ||
If this ventilation port was a feature of G-2, I suggest that you can do it as long as the other feature of G-2 ( umbrella mounts) was also present on this particular plane. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 11:42 am | ||
If this ventilation port was a feature of G-2, I suggest that you can do it as long as the other feature of G-2 ( umbrella mounts) was also present on this particular plane. PS : You should ask others (Bf 109 specialist) for such details. I am not so good in making difference for small details between each subtypes of Bf-109. Mayby our forum member "109" could help you. |
| Posted by: Radub November 23, 2005 12:12 pm |
| HI Cantacuzino, I never claimed to be an expert, but I have lots of books on the 109 .I was only wondering whether you can confirm the absence of the ventilation port (This is a rectangular panel that can be opened from inside the cockpit by the pilot) since you have the original picture and you can have a closer look. I cannot see it in the pictures you posted, so chances are that it was not fitted to this model. The umbrella amounts were removed - one can see the holes left after their removal. The differences between the 2 and the 4 versions of the G are very small. The cockpit air inlets on the fuselage sides is one. The other is the antena lead in: In the G2 it is above the radio hatch, in the G4 it is further aft near the fin (As in the profile). The position of the lead-in is not clear in the pictures available. The wheels are not a good indicator because many G4s were also fitted with spoked wheels. I have a few suggestions for your colour profile if you do not mind. The panel above the gun breeches is one solid dark colour (Possibly green) and the tail is almost entirely painted white ( where the swastika was overpainted) - that is visible in the photo of the aviator with the plane in the background and also in the group photo that shows the upper sides of the wings (the tail is near the person wearing a German flight jacket). Also, the original number of the plane was "10", the "0" was overpainted with a dark colour (possibly green) and the "4" was applied on top. I also believe that the underside of the nose was initially yellow then operpainted with light blue which caused the "streaky" look. Regards, Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 01:48 pm | ||||
What is the picture do you want a close look. (This one below).
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| Posted by: Cantacuzino November 23, 2005 02:12 pm | ||
- Panel above the gun breeches - I will repaint green. - The tail - I will repaint with dirty white. - I will add green (under number"4") where was covered number "0" on fuselage. - The underside of nose i will leave it like that. Normally if " yellow 14" had yellow undernose it should be repaint with white (the ID regulation on west front). But probably "yellow 14" undernose was the same color of the undersurface( blue grey) from the begin and no need to repaint. (There were many romanian and german Bf-109 with no yellow noseunder in '44 ) |
| Posted by: Dénes November 23, 2005 02:25 pm | ||||
I don't see the holes for the pair of horizontal drop-shaped umbrella mounts underneath the cockpit. If originally there was such fixture on the airplane, it must have been a 'trop' version - no reference to this in the Lw loss sheet. In this case, there should have also been two sets of four rectangularily spaced holes just in front of the air intake for the air filter. I cannot see those ones either. Therefore I believe this Messerschmitt was not a 'trop' version, but a regular G-2.
Based on the photo, it appears to me that the entire original Lw fuselage number was overpainted with a darker colour (possibly grey), not only the '4', and the 'Yellow 14' then applied over it. Good luck with your project, Radu! Keep us posted Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub November 23, 2005 02:33 pm |
| Hi Cantacuzino, I superimposed a drawing over the picture and it is obvious that there was no ventilation port. This will determine the layout of the cockpit. Hi Denes, I had no reason to believe that this was a Trop version. I am sure now that it was a G2. I mentioned the umbrella supports because that would be significant in the case of a G4 - the G4s without ventilation inlets were designed for dusty theatres of operation and were fitted with umbrella mounts and filters. Thanks for the clarification. http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=draw0on.jpg Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 November 23, 2005 08:01 pm |
| Just talked with Stinghe. He does not remember much about the palne. It appears that sometimes ,in order to be more "competitive" against the USAF ,they would gathered over Mizil the 2 fighter groups and the German Jg/77. If someone had problems with his plane,he could land at Mizil and get a German plane avalible. This plane can be one of those,who wasn't returned to the Germans from one reason or another. If it's a G-2/4/6/8/10/200,DS never knew precisly what plane he was flying. And I heard something similar from an interv. with A.Galland. |
| Posted by: Dénes November 23, 2005 08:25 pm |
| How about his logbook? Is there any flight aboard 'Yellow 14' recorded (after August 23, 1944)? Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 November 23, 2005 09:25 pm |
| I did asked him. The answer was: "Do you think that someone would bother to write so many details those days?......". |
| Posted by: Radub November 28, 2005 09:16 pm |
| I began my work on a 1/32 model. Expect photos and a "work in progress report" soon. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 05, 2005 02:55 am | ||
I made this changes to color profile on first page. I also move the antena wire for a G-2 position. |
| Posted by: Radub December 05, 2005 09:47 am |
| Looking good Cantacuzino, I am working on the cockpit of the model now. I should be able to start painting it in a few days. Radu |
| Posted by: Radub December 11, 2005 03:54 pm |
| Here is a link to my work in progress: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=8237&st=0&#entry53579 How do we go about this Cantacuzino: "If you are a good boy and start doing this nice project, you will get a bonus ( a Christmass present ). A copy of Dragos Stinghe book and the color profile of his mount "yellow 14", both with his signature. " Christmas is coming fast, Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 December 11, 2005 04:23 pm |
| Amazing work radu! I'll get you the book as soon as I can. With a dedication of course. But this will cost you a few photos for Mr.Stinghe! |
| Posted by: Radub December 11, 2005 04:28 pm |
| Hi C-2, Good to hear that. I will provide plenty of photos on that thread as I go along with the build. I will also make sure that Mr Stinghe gets photos of the finished model. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 11, 2005 04:54 pm |
| Hi Radu, Very nice cockpit details. A promising start . I didn't forget about Stinghe book (as I promised). Probably this week will be sent to you ( just need your mail adress). Happy modeling, Dan. |
| Posted by: Radub December 11, 2005 05:52 pm |
| Hi Cantacuzino, PM sent Radu |
| Posted by: Radub January 10, 2006 10:02 am |
| The book has arrived. Thanks Cantacuzino. Very interesting book. I am reading it already. Please give my thanks to Mr. Stinghe. There should be some more photos of the model soon. Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 January 10, 2006 01:29 pm |
| I told Dragos Stinghe that you are going to build his plane and he was very happy. |
| Posted by: Radub January 10, 2006 03:39 pm |
| Thank you too C-2. Radu |
| Posted by: Radub March 23, 2006 10:31 am |
| Work on the model has resumed: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=8237&st=0&#entry53579 Radu |
| Posted by: Radub July 18, 2006 07:34 pm |
| Work on the model has resumed again: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=8237&pid=81228&st=150&#entry81228 Radu |
| Posted by: Radub December 22, 2006 04:27 pm |
| The model isnow finished: http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=8237&st=225&gopid=97754& Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 December 22, 2006 06:28 pm |
| SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEER! I saw the photos! Just called Stinghe and he waits for the photos. He was very exited. |
| Posted by: Radub December 22, 2006 08:43 pm |
| Thanks C-2, Those photos were taken in a hurry today. I like to take my photos in daylight, but the light was fading fast so I had to abandon the photoshoot. I will try to get better pictures tomorrow, sharper and with better detail. How can I send the pictures? Shall I email them to you? This model will be the subject of an article that will be published in a model magazine at some stage in the new year (not sure of the date yet, possibluy during the summer). I will send the article to Mr Stinghe when published. Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 December 22, 2006 09:24 pm |
| Send me he photos by e mail. I'll take care of the rest. |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino December 23, 2006 09:29 pm | ||
Congrat. Radu, Nice job. One of the best romanian Bf-109 scale model saw until now. The canopy is a master piece. Keep going, Dan. |
| Posted by: C-2 March 28, 2007 08:12 pm |
| Radu, Today I finaly brought to Dragos Stinghe the photos of Monika. He was amazed and I saw a tear in his eyes. He thanks you a lot. |
| Posted by: Radub March 29, 2007 05:42 pm | ||
Thank you very much C-2. An article on that model will (eventually) appear in an American magazine. When published I will send Mr. Stinghe a copy. I will contact you when ready. Radu |
| Posted by: C-2 March 29, 2007 08:07 pm |
| That would be great! |
| Posted by: Dénes April 01, 2007 12:19 pm |
| Sensational finding! In an unrelated German source I found a photo that might very well show Yellow 14, 'Monika'. See photo and detail below, and judge for yourself.  Apparently, while with its original owner, the Gustav was a 'Kanonenboot'. It also featured a black wingroot painting, and the area underneath the exhaust pipes was also dotted with camo painting. Notice also the factory inscription on the wing leading edge. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino April 02, 2007 06:21 am | ||
I have some doubts to be the same plane. for sure is from the same Group ( JG 77) judging by the emblem. But the number on fuselage could be 11 ( I know only no 10 flown by Oleczniczak) And the name could be Monika but also other names starting with "M". Anyway from the study of all pictures the no 14 painted on the fuselage doesn't match at all. http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: dragos April 02, 2007 06:55 am |
| The second letter after "M" looks like an "a". |
| Posted by: Dénes April 02, 2007 11:43 am |
C-no, the photo you posted is convincing enough (assuming that the airplane's s/n was not repainted). I should have checked my photos - including the one you posted - before posting this new one here. But I was too excited with the finding.  Nevertheless, the angles of the two numerals appear slightly different, just as it would be the case with 1 and 4, that's why I thought it's 'our' No. 14. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub May 30, 2007 08:51 am |
| This model was awarded a gold medal in the annual Irish Model Soldier Society show in Dublin last weekend. Radu |
| Posted by: Cantacuzino May 30, 2007 09:57 am | ||
Show us the medal Congrats, Radu. |
| Posted by: Radub May 30, 2007 08:02 pm |
| Of course, here it is Radu http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1008re2.jpg http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/5530/picture1008re2.jpg |
| Posted by: Dénes May 30, 2007 09:40 pm |
| Congratulations, Radu! A great achievement with an interesting aircraft with a captivating story... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: C-2 May 30, 2007 11:43 pm |
| Hmmm. It must be a faik! Congratulation Radu! I'll let Mr. Stinghe know the news. |
| Posted by: Radub October 26, 2007 09:06 am |
The http://www.sampublications.com/pages_dpsinsets/av/av_1311_gustav_dps.htm was published in this month's issue of http://www.sampublications.com/ (November 2007, Volume13, Issue 11)  Also, the model will be entered into the IPMS Modelworld competiton in Telford on 11/12 November 2007. Radu |
| Posted by: Dénes October 26, 2007 08:31 pm |
| Congratulations, Radu! Nice feat. Did you illustrate your article with any period photos of the actual machine? Here is a small excerpt from the article: www.sampublications.com/pages_dpsinsets/av/av_1311_gustav_dps.htm Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Radub October 27, 2007 09:18 am |
| Thanks Denes, Unfortunately, I do not own any photographs that could be published, but in the article, I provided the web address of the page dedicated to Mr Stinghe on this website and mentioned that there are some photos there. I drew a colour profile that was included in the article. The article is leaning heavily towards the construction of the model rather than its history. The article is dedicated to Mr Stinghe. Radu |
| Posted by: Radub November 13, 2007 09:52 am |
| This model was awarded the Silver Medal at the last week-end's IPMS UK Modelworld show in Telford. Radu |
| Posted by: Radub November 13, 2007 09:56 am |
| Photo |
| Posted by: VojtaStary December 16, 2014 08:40 pm |
| Gentlemens, I now built Bf-109 yellow 14 and I need some photos, can you re-upload photos of this machine? Thank you very much! |
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