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Posted by: DomenikosT April 26, 2010 12:40 am
Hi all,

I would greatly appreciate your help to identify the ribbon bars in the attached JPG.
They belonged to my Romanian grandfather, who fought on the Eastern front during WW2.
I have no actual medals, just a diploma ("brevet") for "Bravery and Loyalty" ("Barbatie si Credinta cu spade clasa III-a").

Based on the photos on this forum (very informative, btw), I'm guessing that
- the 3rd bar on the 1st row is "Crusade against Bolshevism"
- the 2nd bar on the 2nd row is "Bravery and Loyalty"
- the 3rd bar on the 2nd row is "Military Virtue"

Thanks!
DomenikosT

P.S. The image didn't seem to upload, so you may find it here: http://yfrog.com/9hdscn1214j

Posted by: Claudiu1988 April 26, 2010 09:21 am
Very nice ribbon bar. We have the folowing medals

1. Military Virtue Cross
2. Bravery and Loyalty Medal
3. Loyal Service Cross
4. Crusade against Bolshevism Medal
5. Centenary Medal
6. Carol 1 40 Years jubilee medal.

Posted by: DomenikosT April 28, 2010 12:48 am
Hi Claudiu1988,

Thank you for the detailed answer.

D.

Posted by: New Connaught Ranger April 28, 2010 04:48 pm
Great items to have, and its not impossible to find replacement medals

to go along with the ribbons for display.

Are the two rows fixed together or two seperate rows of 3 ribbons?

The reason I ask is you have them in the wrong postion in your linked picture.

The should be arranged as per Claudiu 1988 description[B]

Kevin in Deva. biggrin.gif

Posted by: alexandru_101 February 15, 2011 02:05 am
QUOTE (Claudiu1988 @ April 26, 2010 09:21 am)
Very nice ribbon bar. We have the folowing medals

1. Military Virtue Cross
2. Bravery and Loyalty Medal
3. Loyal Service Cross
4. Crusade against Bolshevism Medal
5. Centenary Medal
6. Carol 1 40 Years jubilee medal.

I do not see on the bar where is Carol 1 40 Years jubilee medal.

The first bar from first row looks to me more like a German “Ostmedaille”.



Posted by: New Connaught Ranger February 15, 2011 10:38 am
QUOTE (alexandru_101 @ February 15, 2011 02:05 am)
QUOTE (Claudiu1988 @ April 26, 2010 09:21 am)
Very nice ribbon bar. We have the folowing medals

1. Military Virtue Cross
2. Bravery and Loyalty Medal
3. Loyal Service Cross
4. Crusade against Bolshevism Medal
5. Centenary Medal
6. Carol 1 40 Years jubilee medal.

I do not see on the bar where is Carol 1 40 Years jubilee medal.

The first bar from first row looks to me more like a German “Ostmedaille”.

http://img821.imageshack.us/i/dscn1214i.jpg/

The bar is shown like this in the link:-

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It should be this way:-

http://img819.imageshack.us/i/dscn1214a.jpg/

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We really need a far better picture / close-up of the front and back to be sure,

but was not the standard German medal ribbon of the Nazi period smaller in

width than standard Romanian medal ribbon?

Kevin in Deva.

Posted by: alexandru_101 February 15, 2011 01:45 pm
QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ February 15, 2011 10:38 am)
We really need a far better picture / close-up of the front and back to be sure,

but was not the standard German medal ribbon of the Nazi period smaller in width than standard Romanian medal ribbon?

Kevin in Deva.

http://img825.imageshack.us/i/ostmedaillebar.png/

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"Ostmedaille" (East Medal) or "Russian Front Medal" was introduced on the 26th of May 1942 to recognize those who participated in the first winter of Operation Barbarossa. German soldiers were awarded with this award from July 1942 up to October 1944. Allies begin to receive it starting with June 20, 1943. In Romania this medal was prohibited after August 23, 1944.

Speaking about bar model: Here we need to take into account that over 3 million of the Ostmedaille were manufactured in more than 26 places. Plus it was awarded to all German Allies. I would expect that Ostmedaille ribbon bars were also special designed for Romanian soldiers. Moreover, as far as I know, for a Romanian soldier it was necessary to obtain a special permit to wear this German medal. Nevertheless, you are right about Nazi type of ribbons, they were different from Romanian.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/campaign_awards/easternwintermedal/easternwintermedal.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_Medal
http://www.ww2awards.com/award/137

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