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Posted by: Alexei2102 June 22, 2009 06:44 pm
Gents, this is indeed one of the rarest birds around. Enjoy.

Al

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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 24, 2009 12:00 am
Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 24, 2009 12:02 am
I also noticed no serial number. Was this normal for German shield awards ?

Posted by: dragos June 24, 2009 01:11 am
Also, the spelling at that time was "Crimeii", not "Crimeei"

Posted by: Alexei2102 June 24, 2009 04:52 am
Hi all,

Thank you for your feedback. Now, please allow me to notify you a few things:

1 - @RUC - Please find below 6 types of Krimschild citations (images are taken from Helmut Weitze's site and WAF forum, for this purpose only):

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As you can see, neither one of them has a serial number, and they are all signed by Manstein, although the recipients are very low ranking soldiers - the signature is a facsimile.

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1820&st=30
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71392

The topic is discussed even on WAF, on another award doc, and here, in the post made by Claudiu1988 - line (6).

2. Dragos - The spelling is correct. I have checked with some documents from the era, and it is consistent. As a further proof, please find below an excerpt from an article from "Colectionarul Roman" issue 3, written by our forum friend Dragos03.

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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 25, 2009 02:24 pm
Alexei2102, Thank you for your input and research. It is always interesting to find German award documents to Romanians. Very few exist. I have two Romanian WW2 uniforms with Krimshields on them which I consider to be a very rare find. Photos of them were posted on this sitte 3 years ago.

Posted by: Alexei2102 June 25, 2009 03:12 pm
@RUC,

Thank you for your feedback. You are dead right about the scarce resources in regards to the German awards to Romanian soldiers (docs). I personally have seen in 5 years only 4 EK2 docs, and 1 Ostmedaille.

I have for myself the EK2 and the Ostmedaille (named to a Romanian Mountain Hunter Officer), and now the Krim schild. All that I need is the EK1, and the frontzugspanges.... The DKIG, Adler Order and RK are the rarest of the rare, and there are very very few chances of obtaining one.

Al

Posted by: aviatiadasenzatia June 30, 2009 03:11 am
QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ June 24, 2009 12:00 am)
Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?

Take a closer look. The "signature" is not handwriting is just a stamp which even a soldier could handle it. So the general had time for battles. That not means that is a fake! It was a common practice for lower ranks. The handwriting signature on diplomas was for high ranks.

Posted by: Alexei2102 July 03, 2009 05:25 am
QUOTE (aviatiadasenzatia @ June 30, 2009 03:11 am)
QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ June 24, 2009 12:00 am)
Did General Field Marshall Von Mannstein sign all Krim shield awards to foreigners especially soldiers ? Wow...Carpul Tunnel. When did he have time to conduct the war ?

Take a closer look. The "signature" is not handwriting is just a stamp which even a soldier could handle it. So the general had time for battles. That not means that is a fake! It was a common practice for lower ranks. The handwriting signature on diplomas was for high ranks.

Exactly the point I wanted to prove myself.

Cheers,

Al

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