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Posted by: Carol I November 24, 2003 05:00 pm
I would like to have some more information about the regimental badges that were in use during Carol II’s reign. I have to admit that I know almost nothing about them except that they were introduced by Carol II for the officers that served a number of years (7 or more) in a particular regiment. I think I read somewhere that he thus tried to introduce a tradition similar to that of the French regiments, but the use of regimental badges did not seem to last long in the Romanian army. Do you know when they were introduced and how did their use come to an end? Was it an official decision to discontinue their use? Were there any other badges used in the Romanian army except the pilot and observer badges as well as the badges of the graduates of the Military Academy?

I think I have somewhere photos of two regimental badges. I will post the images as soon as I will find them. But I will appreciate if you would post any image of the regimental badges in your collections.

Carol I

Posted by: Carol I November 24, 2003 05:01 pm
Regimentul 9 Rosiori - 9th Hussars Regiment

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Posted by: Carol I November 24, 2003 05:01 pm
Regimentul 10 Rosiori - 10th Hussars Regiment

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Posted by: Carol I December 16, 2003 02:48 pm
This is not a Romanian regimental badge, but it is somehow related to Romania.
It belongs to the Russian 18th Infantry Regiment "King of Romania".

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This unit was also called 18th Infantry Regiment "Wologda".

Posted by: Carol I January 14, 2004 02:34 pm
Scoala de Aplicatie a Infanteriei - Application School for Infantry

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Posted by: Cuza January 14, 2004 08:35 pm
A reference book supposedly exists written in Romanian. I have seen a copy of a page from it. Maybe someone in the Forum knows of it. I have several of the badges and will try to post them for you. I gave up trying to collect them because of the sheer number and lack of information.

Cuza

Posted by: Carol I January 15, 2004 10:55 am
Thanks a lot for the information and for the offer to post your images (may I help you somehow?).

I am not into collecting regimental badges, but when I stumbled upon some images I have also found that there is very little information about them.

Posted by: Cuza January 15, 2004 08:53 pm
[quote="Carol I"]Thanks a lot for the information and for the offer to post your images (may I help you somehow?).

If you could find some time for me to scan them that would be appreciated!

Posted by: rcristi January 15, 2004 09:20 pm
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This is not a Romanian regimental badge, but it is somehow related to Romania.
It belongs to the Russian 18th Infantry Regiment \"King of Romania\".

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This unit was also called 18th Infantry Regiment \"Wologda\".


What's the story behind this regiment? How they got this name? I presume that was during WW I, isn't it?

Posted by: Carol I January 15, 2004 10:42 pm
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What's the story behind this regiment? How they got this name? I presume that was during WW I, isn't it?


Sorry, I do not know the history of this regiment. But I guess that it got the "King of Romania" name during the visit of King Carol I to Russia sometime in the end of the 19th century. It was common practice to give a regiment the name of a visiting sovereign and to the sovereign an honorary commission in that regiment.

Posted by: Cuza January 15, 2004 10:50 pm
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What's the story behind this regiment? How they got this name? I presume that was during WW I, isn't it?


Sorry, I do not know the history of this regiment. But I guess that it got the "King of Romania" name during the visit of King Carol I to Russia sometime in the end of the 19th century. It was common practice to give a regiment the name of a visiting sovereign and to the sovereign an honorary commission in that regiment.


According to Andolenko Carol I was the honorary commander of the Vologda (as opposed to Wologda) Infantry Regiment from 1898 to 1917. Vologda is a Russian province north of Moscow.
I don't know anything else about the regiment.

Posted by: Carol I January 16, 2004 12:38 am
Do you know what was the Romanian regiment entitled "Czar of Russia"? What has happened to its name after the Russian revolution of 1917?

Posted by: Cuza January 16, 2004 04:56 pm
[quote]Do you know what was the Romanian regiment entitled "Czar of Russia"? What has happened to its name after the Russian revolution of 1917?[/quote]

I can't find any regiment by that name in my reference books-any additional information?

Posted by: Carol I January 16, 2004 05:19 pm
I just thought that if a regiment entitled "King of Romania" existed in the Russian army, one entitled "Czar of Russia" or something similarly should have existed in the Romanian army.

Posted by: Cuza January 16, 2004 06:38 pm
[quote]I just thought that if a regiment entitled "King of Romania" existed in the Russian army, one entitled "Czar of Russia" or something similarly should have existed in the Romanian army.[/quote]

I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.

Posted by: Carol I January 17, 2004 11:03 am
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I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.

Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing it.

Do you know if the "Nicholas II" name of the regiment changed after the Russian revolution of 1917.

Posted by: Cuza January 17, 2004 02:29 pm
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I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.

Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing it.

Do you know if the "Nicholas II" name of the regiment changed after the Russian revolution of 1917.


I have no source, but I would bet on it!

Posted by: Cuza January 17, 2004 05:03 pm
[quote="Cuza"][quote][quote]I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.[/quote]
Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing it.[/quote]

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Identification (as told to me) from left to right: 5th Rosiori (w/unknown), 9th Hunter's Guard (Alex I Serbia), 7th Rosiori Nicholas II Calvary, Polish badge w/Carol II as honorary commander.
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Posted by: Cuza January 17, 2004 05:06 pm
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I believe there to be literally hundreds of regimental badges during the Royal period-these are but a few.
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Posted by: Carol I January 18, 2004 12:20 am
Thank you very much for the images of the badges.

Could you please identify the badges shown in the last image? Are all of them chest badges or some sholder board pins are also included?

Posted by: Cuza January 18, 2004 02:27 pm
[quote]Thank you very much for the images of the badges.

Could you please identify the badges shown in the last image? Are all of them chest badges or some sholder board pins are also included?[/quote]

1st row ltor:
1st Border Guard (1st variation)
7th Border Guard
2d Artillery Guard
9th Cavalry
89th Jandamaria

2d row:
9th Cavalry
14th Regiment?
Officer Military Topography
1st Border Guard (2d variation)
35th Artillery

3d row:
Mihai Viteazul Guard Regiment?
hat badge Mountain Alpine-Ferdinand
Army Aero Commander Group 3A Caucaz-Don 1942-43
Monitor Battleship 1st Fleet

4th row:
1st Pioneer Regiment
unk
1st Artillery
9th Hunter Regiment
Royal Guard Regiment Mihai Viteazul

5th row:
Alba Julia Hospital
4th Artillery
kepi badge 11th Mountain Troop
2d Guard Hunter's Regiment
15 Yr Mountain Troop
unk

The descriptions were given to me by the sellers-I have no reason to disbelieve them, but I have no independent source. I believe the "tinnier" pins are collar or kepi badges. My thanks to Greg of this site for some additional information.

Posted by: Carol I January 19, 2004 07:16 pm
Thank you very much for the identification of the badges. It has been quite helpful.

Posted by: CCJ June 04, 2004 12:04 am
Hi,

I think the Hussar Badge should belong to me. Do you need my hipping address?

Posted by: mihai June 04, 2004 08:17 am
What the Hussar Bagde do you have?
Mihai

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Hi,

I think the Hussar Badge should belong to me. Do you need my hipping address?

Posted by: Carol I June 04, 2004 09:34 pm
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I think the Hussar Badge should belong to me. Do you need my hipping address?


Since I have posted the images of the badges of the hussar regiments, I think the remark was directed to me. But unfortunately I did not understand it.

Posted by: Victor June 04, 2004 09:41 pm
The translation Rosior=Hussar is not really an appropiate one.

Posted by: Carol I June 04, 2004 09:42 pm
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The translation Rosior=Hussar is not really an appropiate one.


What would be the appropriate translation then?

Posted by: Victor June 05, 2004 07:26 am
Regular cavalry.
But a translation is not realy indicated, as these names are characteristic to the Romanian traditions (the Rosii cavalry corps dates back to the 16th-17th century) as the Huszar is to the Hungarian one.

Posted by: Carol I June 05, 2004 08:38 am
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Regular cavalry.

Cavalry is a more general term that encompasses many other cavalry types such as hussars, dragoons or cuirassiers.


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But a translation is not realy indicated, as these names are characteristic to the Romanian traditions (the Rosii cavalry corps dates back to the 16th-17th century) as the Huszar is to the Hungarian one.

I guess that some sort of a translation is needed, in order to properly identify this type of cavalry corps of the Romanian army. Indeed, among the many cavalry types, the ones that made it to the modern (even contemporary) times in many different European armies is the light cavalry usually known as hussars. And my opinion is that the Rosiori corps of the Romanian army represents a light cavalry that resembles most the hussars of other armies. Do you think Red Hussars is a better name for them?

The term hussar might indeed have originated from 15th century Hungary, but then it described a type of light cavalry that did not exist in other armies of that time. But, as you probably know, the hussars were adopted by many other armies such as the Prussian, French or British and they do not all acknowledge the Hungarian origin. Some British sources say for example that the word hussar is supposed to have come from the Italian corsaro as they used more or less the same tactics in the beginning. But this is a completely different issue.

Posted by: Victor June 05, 2004 07:01 pm
The Rosiori were the regular cavalry untis of the Romanian army prior to 1890. The only other cavalry units were the calarasi, who were the territorial cavalry. There was no light/heavy cavalry.
Probably the closest equivalent in the western army would be the uhlans.
But I would stick to the Romanian term.

Posted by: mabadesc June 06, 2004 02:18 am
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I think the Hussar Badge should belong to me. Do you need my hipping address?  
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Since I have posted the images of the badges of the hussar regiments, I think the remark was directed to me. But unfortunately I did not understand it.


I think he was implying (jokingly or not) that he likes it and wants to have it or to buy it from you.

Posted by: CCJ June 06, 2004 02:45 am
Yes,

I was joking with you. However, I wouls buy the badge if ever you want to get rid of it.

Is there a reference book that I can obtain that shows the various regimental badges of the Romanian army pre WW2/

Posted by: Carol I June 06, 2004 09:16 am
As I mentioned in the original post, I have only the images of the badges, not the badges themselves. So I am in no position to "want to get rid of them". I hope you understand now why I was puzzled by your remark.

Posted by: CCJ June 10, 2004 10:45 pm
Didn't read that part. :beer: :beer: :beer:

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 11, 2004 11:40 pm
The Romanian Regiment that had Czar Nicholas 2 of Russia as Honory Commander -en-Cheif was the 5th Roshiori Cavalry Regiment. Not the 7th Roshiori Cavalry Regiment. The 5th Roshiori Regiment existed from 1895-1945. What I find fascinating about this regiment is that they wore the Russian Czar Nichaloas 2 cyphers on their epaulets after 1917 Russian Revolution and the death of N2 and continued to wear the insignia on their uniforms during WW2. I find this interesting. What was the reason for this continued wear of the Nicholas insignia on the uniforms. The Russians in WW2 must have found this to be interesting as well. Second Questioned to this topic, I understand that the Military Museum is finally putting together a reference book on regimental badges to be published later this year. Can anyone shed some light on this ?

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 13, 2004 04:57 pm
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5th ROSHIORI REGIMENT, SECOND LEIUTENANT, 1937

HERE IS A PHOTO THAT HAS ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD. THIS DASHING YOUNG CAVALRY OFFICER OF THE 5TH ROSHIORI CAVALRY REGIMENT WEARS THE CYPHER OF CZAR NICHOLAS II OF RUSSIA ON HIS SHOULDER BOARDS AND ON THE CAVALRY INSIGNIA PATCH THAT IS ON THE FRONT OF HIS VISOR CAP. HOWEVER, HE HOLDS A WW1 IMPERIAL RUSSIAN CZARIST OFFICERS SWORD. WAS THIS STANDARD WEAR FOR THESE OFFICERS ? DID THEY WEAR IMPERIAL RUSSIAN SWORDS INSTED OF ROYAL ROMANIAN SWORDS....OR COULD THIS HAVE BEEN AN ISOLATED CASE IN WHICH WE HAD AN OFFICER OF ROMANIAN-RUSSIAN DECENT WHOS FATHER MAY HAVE SERVED IN THE IMPERIAL RUSSIAN ARMY AND HIS SON WEARS HIS FATHERS SWORD. THERE WERE SEVERAL EXILED WHITE RUSSIAN CZARIST OFFICERS WHO SERVED IN THE ROMANIAN MILITARY AFTER THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 13, 2004 06:39 pm
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5TH ROSHIORI CAVALRY REGIMENT - WW2

FOR ANYONE IN DISBELEIF, THIS REGIMENT DID INDEED WEAR CZAR NICHOLAS 2 CYPHER DURING WW2 AND WORE IT INTO RUSSIA THEY DID.
HERE ARE 2 EXAMPLES OF OFFICERS SHOULDER BOARDS FROM THE 5TH ROSHIORI CAVARY REGIMENT OF CZAR NICHOLAS 2 OF RUSSIA.
1ST PAIR - LIEUTENANT COLONEL, MODEL 1942 WITH SUBDEUD PLASTIC BUTTON.
2ND PAIR - COLONEL, PRE-1942 WITH GILT BUTTON. HOWEVER, DURING THE UNIFORM BUTTON CHANGE THAT OCCURED WHEN GILT BUTTONS WERE REMOVED FROM THE UNIFORMS AND REPLACED WITH SUBDEUD BUTTONS OF KHAKI GREEN AND DARK BROWN IN COLOR, THE CAVALRY CONTINUED TO WEAR THEIR GILT BUTTONS THROUGH 1945. I USE THE DATE OF 1942 AS A REFERENCE OF UNIFORM CHANGE WHEN GILT BUTTONS WERE REMOVED FOR SUBDUED ONES, BUT ACTUALLY, THE PRACTICE I BELEIVE STARTED IN 1941 AND COMPLETED CHANGE IN 1942. ANY ONE KNOW FOR SURE ? :?: ' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

Posted by: Carol I June 21, 2004 09:55 am
Regimentul 3 Artilerie - 3rd Artillery Regiment

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Source: Bogdan Stambuliu, La Galerie Numismatique Catalogue 2004, page 108.

Posted by: mihai June 22, 2004 11:22 am
What source did you use?
I think this scan is belong to MrBogdan's cataloge.
Mihai

[quote]Regimentul 3 Artilerie - 3rd Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: Carol I June 22, 2004 12:14 pm
I have received the image and didn't pay much attention to the origin.

Who is Mr Bogdan?

Posted by: mihai June 26, 2004 03:42 pm
 The showing source is important.
Mihai

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I have received the image and didn't pay much attention to the origin.

Who is Mr Bogdan?

Posted by: Carol I June 26, 2004 05:09 pm
Batalionul de Garda Regala - Royal Guard Battalion

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Originally http://worldwar2.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13414#13414 by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR.

Posted by: mihai June 27, 2004 10:36 am
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Batalionul de Garda Regala - Royal Guard Battalion
Originally http://worldwar2.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13414#13414 by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR.


In correst,Is it"Batalionul Gărzii Regale a Palatului"?
Mihai.

Posted by: mihai June 27, 2004 10:39 am
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I have received the image and didn't pay much attention to the origin.Who is Mr Bogdan?


Thsi scan is belong to the catalog of Mr,Bogdan's Gallary "La Galerie Numismatique".
This catalog is the auction in 3/May/2004,the scan is P108 in this catalog.
I have this original catalog.
Mihai

Posted by: Carol I June 27, 2004 11:27 am
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Thsi scan is belong to the catalog of Mr,Bogdan's Gallary \"La Galerie Numismatique\".
This catalog is the auction in 3/May/2004,the scan is P108 in this catalog.
I have this original catalog.


Thanks for the information. We now know wherefrom this particular image has originated.

Posted by: mihai July 08, 2004 04:27 am
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Thanks for the information. We now know wherefrom this particular image has originated.

You are welcome!

Mihai

Posted by: Carol I August 03, 2004 11:46 am
Regimentul 8 Vânători - 8th Vânători Regiment
Vodă Grigore Ghica

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From a http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1275 indicated by Mihai.

Posted by: Victor August 03, 2004 12:50 pm
[quote]Regimentul 8 Vânători - 8th Mountain Troops Regiment
Vodă Grigore Ghica

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The vantori were not mountain troops.
Btw, there were no mountain troop regiments, just battalions.

Posted by: Carol I August 03, 2004 01:05 pm
[quote]The vantori were not mountain troops.[/quote]
As far as I remember the mountain horn was the traditional insignia of the Vânători de munte (were they not the mountain troops?). According to the photos in the links below, the mountain horn was still present on the uniforms of the Vânători de munte during WWII, so it is quite likely that it was used as insignia in the 1930s.

http://worldwar2.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14003#14003
http://worldwar2.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14004#14004

[quote]Btw, there were no mountain troop regiments, just battalions.[/quote]
Then this was the badge of a battalion, not a regiment?

Posted by: dragos August 03, 2004 01:21 pm
It was from the 8th Infantry Division:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/oob/?unit=10&language=en

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 03, 2004 01:27 pm
Vanatori - Translates as Hunter or Sharpshooter. It was a term used for the Infantry Rifle Regiments. The insignia is the hunting horn.
Vanatori de Munte - Is a term for the Mountain Rifle units. These were formed as battalions and were trained for mountain combat and had excellant skiing abilities. Some of these regimental badges are found with skiis on them. The insignia for the Vanatori de Munte is the hunting horn with a pine branch cluster.

Posted by: Victor August 03, 2004 01:54 pm
The vanatori were the elite of the infantry during the 19th century and early 20th century. However, after WWI, any differences between them and the regular infantry were erased and only the name remained, as military tradition.

The vanatori de munte were the mountain troops created during WWI and expanded later into a different army section, with different organization.

The mountain troops insignia also includes, IIRC, the Queen's Flower (also known as the Corner Flower under Communism)

Posted by: Carol I August 03, 2004 02:41 pm
Thank you all for the replies.

Then the badge under debate is that of the 8th Infantry Regiment Vodă Grigore Ghica

Posted by: dragos August 03, 2004 02:52 pm
[quote]Then the badge under debate is that of the 8th Infantry Regiment Vodă Grigore Ghica[/quote]

A distinction must be made between the 8th Infantry Regiment (Regimentul 8 infanterie) which belonged to the 5th Infantry Division and the 8th VanatoriRegiment which belonged to the 8th Infantry Division.

Posted by: Carol I August 03, 2004 08:35 pm
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A distinction must be made between the 8th Infantry Regiment (Regimentul 8 infanterie) which belonged to the 5th Infantry Division and the 8th Vânători Regiment which belonged to the 8th Infantry Division.

OK then. Please modify my original post so that the badge is correctly identified.

Posted by: mihai August 04, 2004 11:02 am
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A distinction must be made between the 8th Infantry Regiment (Regimentul 8 infanterie) which belonged to the 5th Infantry Division and the 8th Vânatori Regiment which belonged to the 8th Infantry Division.

OK then. Please modify my original post so that the badge is correctly identified.

after the debate,Is this badge 8th Vanatri regiment?

Mihai

Posted by: dragos August 04, 2004 11:12 am
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OK then. Please modify my original post so that the badge is correctly identified.

You can edit your own posts.

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after the debate,Is this badge 8th Vanatri regiment?

Yes

Posted by: mihai August 04, 2004 11:21 am
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after the debate,Is this badge 8th Vanatri regiment?

Yes

Thank you !

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 03:39 am
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CIG Engineers - Commadant Inspector General of the Engineers. Has the sunburst rays often found in Generals insignia. I do not think that too many of these badges were ever made.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 03:49 am
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13th Artillery Regiment. 7 year badge. Motto "Spirit de Corps"

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 03:55 am
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37th Artillery Regiment

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 03:57 am
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7th Pioneer Sappaurs

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 04:01 am
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Vanatori de Munte. Which unit ????????

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 04:05 am
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1st Hydrovac (Seaplane). 7 year badge.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 04:09 am
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23rd Infantry Regiment, 7 year badge.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 04:12 am
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6th Pontoon

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 04:15 am
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7th artillery Regiment

Posted by: mihai August 05, 2004 11:23 am
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CIG Engineers - Commadant Inspector General of the Engineers. Has the sunburst rays often found in Generals insignia. I do not think that too many of these badges were ever made.

This is the rare badge I think.
Do you have the badge of "Commadant Inspector General of the Cavarly"?

Mihai

Posted by: mihai August 05, 2004 11:27 am
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Vanatori de Munte. Which unit ????????

Is this the regimen badge?
In this badge,Ther are not monogram...
But this is great peice.

Mihai

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 01:39 pm
The Vanatori de Munte badge is a combination of the Ruling House Order with pine neeble branch clusters of the Vanatori de Munte. Perhaps, this was one of the Battalions that the King or Prince was associated with ???

The CIG badge is an extreamly rare piece. Only one CIG Commadant Inspector General at a time per branch of service. Cavalry and Infantry branches also had a CIG Inspector General, but I have never seen what these badges look like. I beleive that the Military Museum in Bucharest does not have any examples of CIG badges in their collection. Very rare and how many made ? I do not know. The CIG had a small staff of adjutant officers. Did the staff officers also wear the badge or only the Commadant ?

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 05, 2004 01:44 pm
Mihai - I do not have a Cavalry CIG badge and probably will never see what one looks like. Too few pieces ever made and how many exist today ?

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 09, 2004 02:58 am
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2nd Mountain Sappaurs

Posted by: mihai August 09, 2004 12:30 pm
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Mihai - I do not have a Cavalry CIG badge and probably will never see what one looks like. Too few pieces ever made and how many exist today ?
In you oppinion,The badge has never made?

Mihai

Posted by: Carol I November 04, 2004 08:10 am
Regimentul 7 Infanterie - 7th Infantry Regiment
Prahova

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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I November 04, 2004 08:11 am
Regimentul de Jandarmerie Pedestră - Pedestrian Gendarmerie Regiment
Bucureşti

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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: mihai November 23, 2004 02:21 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Nov 4 2004, 08:11 AM)
Regimentul de Jandarmerie Pedestră - Pedestrian Gendarmerie Regiment
Bucureşti

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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

that's geat.but this price is too high
Mihai

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 27, 2004 07:46 pm
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2nd Pontoon Regiment

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 28, 2004 12:52 am
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42nd Obouziere Artillery Regiment, City of Lugoj, 1919-1945.
On the cannon is written "Bucharest - Tisa".

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 28, 2004 12:59 am
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2nd Heavy Artillery Regiment.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 28, 2004 01:01 am
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16th Artillery Regiment.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 28, 2004 01:03 am
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3rd Railroad Regiment, 7 year badge.

Posted by: Carol I August 14, 2005 10:38 am
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I just thought that if a regiment entitled "King of Romania" existed in the Russian army, one entitled "Czar of Russia" or something similarly should have existed in the Romanian army.

I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.

It appears that the regiment in question was in fact the 5th Roşiori Regiment.

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Originally http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2354&view=findpost&p=36758 by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR

Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 07:54 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Dec 16 2003, 02:48 PM)
This is not a Romanian regimental badge, but it is somehow related to Romania.
It belongs to the Russian 18th Infantry Regiment "King of Romania".

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This unit was also called 18th Infantry Regiment "Wologda".

The 18th Russian Infantry Regiment “Vologda”, with the 17th Russian Infantry Regiment “Archangelgorod”, forming the 2nd Brigade of the 5th Division, stormed Turkish Grivitza 1 redoubt on the 3rd assault of Plevna of 30th August / 11th September 1877. During that attack Romanian and Russian troops succeeded to occupy the redoubt.

In order to commemorate this event, and to warm the icy relations exting between Russia and Romania in the end of Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, in 1898 the Romanian King Carol I was named “Colonel-in-Chief “ of this unit. All officers and men wore Russian uniforms but with Carol’s cipher on the shoulder boards. From 1900 princes Ferdinand and, later, Carol (the future Carol II) were registered in the same unit. In 1906, during the 40th anniversary of King Carol's ascension to the throne, he received an officer sword, from the Russian commander of the 18th Regiment, in order to be carried when King Carol wears the Russian uniform.

There is a well known photo presenting King Carol I, with royal princes Ferdinand and Carol, during the Czar visit in Constanta, in June 1914. All the Romanian Highnesses wore the 18th Infantry Regiment “Vologda” uniform.

Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 08:18 am
http://imageshack.us

http://hydrogen.pallasweb.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=nicky;action=display;num=1112232930

This is a photo of Czar Nicholas II visit in Constanta in June 1914. Carol I and prince Ferdinand wear the uniform of the 18th "Vologda" Infantry Regiment. On the shoulder boards are the Carol's I ciphers.


Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 08:44 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Aug 14 2005, 10:38 AM)
QUOTE (Cuza @ Jan 16 2004, 07:38 PM)
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I just thought that if a regiment entitled "King of Romania" existed in the Russian army, one entitled "Czar of Russia" or something similarly should have existed in the Romanian army.

I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.

It appears that the regiment in question was in fact the 5th Roşiori Regiment.

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Originally http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2354&view=findpost&p=36758 by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR

In June 1914, when Czar Nicholas II and his family visited Constanta, King Carol I has organized several ceremonies in his high guest’s honour. Among these was a military parade of the troops garrisoned in Constanta. The 5th Rosiori regiment participated at that parade and impressed the Czar. Carol was agreeably surprised by Nicholas II remarks and decided on the spot to offer the honorary command of this regiment to the Czar.

This was later sanctioned by the Royal Decree No. 2673 of 5th July 1914. The 5th Rosiori Regiment “Emperor Nicholas II of Russia” kept this title and cipher long time after the Russian revolution, until the WW2.

Posted by: Carol I October 05, 2005 09:16 pm
Thanks for the updates, Kepi.

Posted by: Carol I October 09, 2005 08:43 am
Polish 57th Wielkopolski Infantry Regiment "King Carol II of Romania"

http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281968
Source: http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281968

Posted by: Carol I October 09, 2005 08:46 am
Polish 57th Wielkopolski Infantry Regiment "King Carol II of Romania"
(with a different shape of the eagle)

http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281969
Source: http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281969

Posted by: Kepi October 09, 2005 09:21 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Oct 9 2005, 08:46 AM)
Polish 57th Wielkopolski Infantry Regiment "King Carol II of Romania"
(with a different shape of the eagle)

http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281969
Source: http://www.icollector.com/viewCatalogItem.aspx?auctionSessionid=10440&itemLotID=5281969

I think this is the right model, as it was described in Guido Rosignoli's book, Army Badges and Insignia of World war 2. Vol.1, Blandford Press, London, 1974.
Carol II was appointed colonel-in-chief of the 57th Polish Infantry Regiment in summer 1937, when he visited Poland with Great Voivode Mihai.
This was a complimentary gesture of Polish authorities as a result of President Pilsudski appointment as honorary commander of the 16th Dorobanti regiment in the 1920s.

Posted by: Carol I October 09, 2005 10:40 am
Some time ago I have seen on eBay one more badge of the Polish 57th Wielkopolski Infantry Regiment "King Carol II of Romania" with the 'first' model of the eagle.

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Posted by: Kepi October 13, 2005 08:23 am
This badge of the 57th Infantry Regiment “Carol II of Romania” belongs to the National Military Museum and is now displayed on the Contemporary Section of the main exhibition.

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King Carol II awarding the colour of the Polish 57th infantry Regiment with “Michael the Brave” order, in June 1937.

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Posted by: Carol I October 13, 2005 04:15 pm
Thanks for the update.

QUOTE (Kepi @ Oct 13 2005, 09:23 AM)
This badge of the 57th Infantry Regiment “Carol II of Romania” belongs to the National Military Museum and is now displayed on the Contemporary Section of the main exhibition.

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The original name of the image is 'insreg57copy.jpg'. Is this badge a recently made copy? If not and the badge is real, is it known who was the original owner? Was it King Carol II as the colonel-in-chief of the Polish regiment?

QUOTE (Kepi @ Oct 13 2005, 09:23 AM)
King Carol II awarding the colour of the Polish 57th infantry Regiment with “Michael the Brave” order, in June 1937.

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Was diplomacy the only reason for this award?

Posted by: Dénes October 13, 2005 09:21 pm
Here is a similar badge, currently sold on eBay (notice the differences between various details):

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Gen. Dénes

Posted by: Kepi October 14, 2005 09:31 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Oct 13 2005, 04:15 PM)
Thanks for the update.

QUOTE (Kepi @ Oct 13 2005, 09:23 AM)
This badge of the 57th Infantry Regiment “Carol II of Romania” belongs to the National Military Museum and is now displayed on the Contemporary Section of the main exhibition.

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The original name of the image is 'insreg57copy.jpg'. Is this badge a recently made copy? If not and the badge is real, is it known who was the original owner? Was it King Carol II as the colonel-in-chief of the Polish regiment?

QUOTE (Kepi @ Oct 13 2005, 09:23 AM)
King Carol II awarding the colour of the Polish 57th infantry Regiment with “Michael the Brave” order, in June 1937.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5863/caroliidecorandreg572mp.jpg

Was diplomacy the only reason for this award?

The badge is real but it was restored before it was put on display, that’s it looks so brilliant. I don’t think that it belonged to King Carol but the Museum’s specialist, Professor Cornel Andonie, told me that it could be offered by Polish military authorities, at the end of 1930s together with other artifacts (uniforms, orders and medals, weapons, a colour). They were recently displayed in a temporary exhibition dedicated to the Polish contribution in WW2, opened with the Polish Cultural Institute of Bucharest.

The colour of the 57th Infantry Regiment was awarded with “Michael the Brave” order, 3rd Class, by king Carol II, on 25th of June 1937, for “ the bravery they proved on the bloody fights of Waski, Jarow, Brezyna, Choluj, Swislocz and Tartakovicze and the battle near Warsaw and the pursuit of the enemy until 20th of October 1920, the armistice day,…” (Royal decree nr. 2625 of 22nd of June 1937). In the same day, King Carol II was promoted colonel-in-chief of the regiment.

(Information courtesy by Professor Cornel Andonie of the National Military Museum)

Posted by: Carol I October 14, 2005 08:40 pm
QUOTE (Kepi @ Oct 14 2005, 10:31 AM)
The badge is real but it was restored before it was put on display, that’s it looks so brilliant. I don’t think that it belonged to King Carol but the Museum’s specialist, Professor Cornel Andonie, told me that it could be offered by Polish military authorities, at the end of 1930s together with other artifacts (uniforms, orders and medals, weapons, a colour). They were recently displayed in a temporary exhibition dedicated to the Polish contribution in WW2, opened with the Polish Cultural Institute of Bucharest.

I see, thanks.

Posted by: Carol I November 17, 2005 08:06 am
Regimentul 4 Călăraşi - 4th Călăraşi Regiment

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Posted by: Carol I November 17, 2005 08:08 am
Regimentul 5 Roşiori - 5th Roşiori Regiment
Ţarul Nicolae al II-lea al Rusiei - Czar Nicholas II of Russia

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Posted by: Carol I November 17, 2005 08:15 am
Regimentul 11 Călăraşi - 11th Călăraşi Regiment

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Originally http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2354&view=findpost&p=36759 by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR

Given the 'R11C' on the badge I have identified this one as the 11th Călăraşi Regiment (Regimentul 11 Călăraşi). Can anyone confirm this identification? The same question applies to the badge of the 4th Călăraşi Regiment (Regimentul 4 Călăraşi) above.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 17, 2005 01:06 pm
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C.I.C. Cavalry Instruction Center at Sibiu

Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:45 pm
Flotila 1 Aviaţie - 1st Aviation Flotilla (Iaşi)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:46 pm
Flotila 2 Aviaţie de Gardă - 2nd Guard Aviation Flotilla (Cluj)

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Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:47 pm
Flotila 3 Aviaţie - 3rd Aviation Flotilla (Galaţi)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:48 pm
Flotila de Hidroviaţie - Hydroaviation Flotilla

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:49 pm
Flotila de Hidroviaţie - Hydroaviation Flotilla (7 years honorary badge)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:50 pm
Flotila de Luptă - Fighter Flotilla (honorary badge with green wreath)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:51 pm
Flotila de Luptă - Fighter Flotilla (honorary badge with metal wreath)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:52 pm
Centrul de Instrucţie al Aeronauticii - Instruction Centre for Aeronautics

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Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:53 pm
Şcoala Tehnică pentru Aeronautică - Technical School for Aeronautics

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:54 pm
Grupul 8 Vânătoare - 8th Fighter Group

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:56 pm
Grupul 8 Vânătoare - 8th Fighter Group (different enamel colour - rendition issue?)

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:57 pm
IAR 81

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:58 pm
Flotila II Bombardament - 2nd Bomber Flotilla

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 06:59 pm
Însemnul hidroaviaţiei - Hydroaviation badge

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 07:00 pm
Comandamentul Aero Armata a III-a - 3rd Army Air Command

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Posted by: Carol I November 27, 2005 07:01 pm
Ministerul Aerului şi Marinei - Ministry of Air and Navy

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Posted by: dragos03 December 06, 2005 04:23 pm
Badge of the 35th Artillery Regiment (originally posted on Wehrmacht-Awards by Joerg):

Front:

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Back:

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Posted by: Carol I December 06, 2005 09:42 pm
QUOTE (dragos03 @ Dec 6 2005, 05:23 PM)
Badge of the 35th Artillery Regiment (originally posted on Wehrmacht-Awards by Joerg):

Nice image Dragos. A similar badge appears in the second row of Cuza's image we discussed earlier today.

I have noticed that there are no hallmarks on the reverse of the badge posted by Joerg. Was it common that regimental badges were (not) hallmarked?

Posted by: Dénes December 19, 2005 08:15 pm
Cavalry badge (currently on eBay).

Gen. Dénes

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Posted by: Carol I December 19, 2005 08:20 pm
QUOTE (Dénes @ Dec 19 2005, 09:15 PM)
Cavalry badge (currently on eBay).

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Can anyone identify this badge? Although described as a regimental badge on eBay, it has only the inscription Trupa cu schimbul and no regiment number.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 20, 2005 03:50 am
Enlisted mans cavalry school at Schimbul.

Posted by: Kepi December 20, 2005 09:17 am
QUOTE (Dénes @ Dec 19 2005, 08:15 PM)
Cavalry badge (currently on eBay).

Gen. Dénes

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The badge belonged to the volunteers of territorial cavalry units (Calarasi). Traditionally, the territorial cavalrymen were long term service soldiers and took turns (which means “Cu Schimbul”) in doing their service. According the regulation adopted in October 1940 in the territorial cavalry units volunteers who brought their own horses were allowed to carry a special badge representing a horse shoe and a head of a horse.
It’s interesting to note that there were also special badges for those volunteers who used their own motorcycles for the service within the reconnaissance sub-units or as couriers (“MOTOCICLIST CU SCHIMBUL”) or brought their horse for horse artillery units (“ARTILERIST CU SCHIMBUL”).

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Posted by: boonicootza December 20, 2005 11:43 am
Thanks for the info. biggrin.gif

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 20, 2005 01:59 pm
From what reference are these badge drawings from ?

Posted by: Carol I December 20, 2005 04:59 pm
QUOTE (Kepi @ Dec 20 2005, 10:17 AM)
The badge belonged to the volunteers of territorial cavalry units (Calarasi). Traditionally, the territorial cavalrymen were long term service soldiers and took turns (which means “Cu Schimbul”) in doing their service. According the regulation adopted in October 1940 in the territorial cavalry  units volunteers who brought their own horses were allowed to carry a special badge representing a horse shoe and a head of a horse.
It’s interesting to note that there were also special badges for those volunteers who used their own motorcycles for the service within the reconnaissance sub-units or as couriers (“MOTOCICLIST CU SCHIMBUL”) or brought their horse for horse artillery units  (“ARTILERIST CU SCHIMBUL”).

Thanks Kepi for the information. Are the images related in any way to the books on Romanian badges which is due to appear in the Dorobanţul series?

Posted by: Kepi December 21, 2005 06:37 am
QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Dec 20 2005, 01:59 PM)
From what reference are these badge drawings from ?

I’m sorry. I forgot to mention the source of the drawings. They were published in the appendix of the “Regulation of the horse troopers and motorcyclists by turns” (“Regulamentul trupei cu schimbul calare si a motociclistilor cu schimbul”), Bucharest 1940, pages 41- 42. This regulation could be found in the National Military Museum library.

Posted by: Kepi December 21, 2005 07:02 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Dec 20 2005, 04:59 PM)
QUOTE (Kepi @ Dec 20 2005, 10:17 AM)
The badge belonged to the volunteers of territorial cavalry units (Calarasi). Traditionally, the territorial cavalrymen were long term service soldiers and took turns (which means “Cu Schimbul”) in doing their service. According the regulation adopted in October 1940 in the territorial cavalry  units volunteers who brought their own horses were allowed to carry a special badge representing a horse shoe and a head of a horse.
It’s interesting to note that there were also special badges for those volunteers who used their own motorcycles for the service within the reconnaissance sub-units or as couriers (“MOTOCICLIST CU SCHIMBUL”) or brought their horse for horse artillery units  (“ARTILERIST CU SCHIMBUL”).

Thanks Kepi for the information. Are the images related in any way to the books on Romanian badges which is due to appear in the Dorobanţul series?

I hope this badges will be also presented in the next issue of “Dorobantul” series. As far as I know, professor Cornel Andonie, who is the author of this book, intend to describe mainly the regimental (“7 years”) badges, but also other specialist or qualification badges. I don’t know if all these badges could be included in 8 colour plates.
It seems that the book will be released at the end of 2006.

Posted by: Carol I December 21, 2005 08:27 am
QUOTE (Kepi @ Dec 21 2005, 08:02 AM)
I hope this badges will be also presented in the next issue of “Dorobantul” series. As far as I know, professor Cornel Andonie, who is the author of this book, intend to describe mainly the regimental (“7 years”) badges, but also other specialist or qualification badges. I don’t know if all these badges could be included in 8 colour plates.
It seems that the book will be released at the end of 2006.

Thanks for the information. Please keep us informed about developments regarding the book on badges.

Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 09:52 am
Here are some more badges from Military Museum in Bucharest

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 09:54 am
Infantry Officer's School "Principele Carol"

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 09:56 am
7th Heavy Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 09:57 am
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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 10:01 am
6th Mountain Troops Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 10:02 am
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Posted by: Victor January 09, 2006 11:32 am
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 11:52 AM)
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That is the badge of the 21st Infantry Regiment (or Regimentul IV Ilfov nr. 21).

Posted by: Victor January 09, 2006 11:32 am
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 12:01 PM)
6th Mountain Troops Regiment

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Battalion, not regiment.

Posted by: Carol I January 09, 2006 11:42 am
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 11:02 AM)
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Is it a version of the badge below?

QUOTE (Carol I @ Nov 27 2005, 07:46 PM)
Flotila 2 Aviaţie de Gardă - 2nd Guard Aviation Flotilla (Cluj)

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Posted by: Carol I January 09, 2006 11:44 am
QUOTE (Carol I @ Nov 27 2005, 07:45 PM)
Flotila 1 Aviaţie - 1st Aviation Flotilla (Iaşi)

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QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 11:03 AM)
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Posted by: Carol I January 09, 2006 11:52 am
QUOTE (Victor @ Jan 9 2006, 12:32 PM)
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 11:52 AM)
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6567/picture1710vo.jpg


That is the badge of the 21st Infantry Regiment (or Regimentul IV Ilfov nr. 21).

What is the history of this regiment? It must have originated in Moldavia given the prominent position of the aurochs' head on the badge.

Posted by: Carol I January 09, 2006 12:06 pm
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 11:06 AM)
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Regimentul 13 Dorobanţi - 13th Dorobanţi Regiment ?

Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:48 pm
Thanks for the info Carol and Victor.

Here are some more badges.

9th Dorobanti Regiment R. Sarat

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:51 pm
Unknown to me

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:52 pm
23rd Infantry Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:53 pm
9th Mountain Troops Batallion

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:54 pm
38h Infantry Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:55 pm
4th Calarasi Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:57 pm
7th Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 12:58 pm
35th Infantry Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:02 pm
33rd Dorobanti Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:03 pm
1st Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:06 pm
9th Calarasi regiment Queen Marioara of Jugoslavia

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:07 pm
37th Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:09 pm
3rd Pontoon Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:10 pm
3rd Rosiori Regiment "Regina Maria" ?

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:13 pm
96th Gendarmerie Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:15 pm
and the last one 87th Infantry Regiment

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 01:16 pm
correction, this is the last one tongue.gif

41st Artillery Regiment

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Posted by: Victor January 09, 2006 02:14 pm
QUOTE (Carol I @ Jan 9 2006, 01:52 PM)
[QUOTE=Victor,Jan 9 2006, 12:32 PM
That is the badge of the 21st Infantry Regiment (or Regimentul IV Ilfov nr. 21).[/QUOTE]
What is the history of this regiment? It must have originated in Moldavia given the prominent position of the aurochs' head on the badge.

It was formed in 1891 by joining the 21st Dorobanti Regiment Ilfov with the 4th Line Infantry Regiment, stationed also in Bucharest at the time. However, the 4th Line Regiment was initially created from two battalions of the Moldavian Musketeer Regiment andwas thus considered its successor. That is why it has the Moldavian coat of arms. But during WW1 and WW2 it was a unit manned mostly by bucuresteni (mitici wink.gif )

Posted by: Victor January 09, 2006 02:17 pm
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 02:58 PM)
35th Infantry Regiment

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The 35th Infantry Regiment Neagoe Basarab was stationed at Cetatea Alba/Akkerman/Belgorod during the 30s, hence the image on its badge.

Posted by: Victor January 09, 2006 02:18 pm
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 03:10 PM)
3rd Rosiori Regiment "Regina Maria" ?

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The 4th Rosiori Regiment was the Queen Maria's unit.

Posted by: Carol I January 09, 2006 08:16 pm
QUOTE (boonicootza @ Jan 9 2006, 01:55 PM)
4th Calarasi Regiment

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REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR has http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2354&view=findpost&p=36760 another, quite different badge for the 7 years badge of Regimentul 4 Călăraşi (4th Călăraşi Regiment).

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Posted by: boonicootza January 09, 2006 08:43 pm
Then one of us is wrong laugh.gif , or there were two types of badges for this regiment.
I'm just guessing that the one I've posted is of the 4th Călăraşi Regiment.
I someone else has an oppinion on this matter, please share it with us.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR February 27, 2006 02:08 am
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3rd Tank Regiment C.L.

Posted by: Carol I April 01, 2006 10:36 pm
1934 certificate for the 7 years badge of the 1st Vânători Regiment "Crown Prince Ferdinand"

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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR April 02, 2006 10:49 pm
QUOTE (Carol I @ Apr 1 2006, 10:36 PM)
1934 certificate for the 7 years badge of the 1st Vânători Regiment "Crown Prince Ferdinand"

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This is the badge for this certificate.
1st Vanatori Regiment.

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Posted by: dragos03 October 23, 2006 01:15 am
A friend of mine has this badge, along with some awards that belonged to one of his relatives. Is it a regimental badge?

It is marked with a crown on the pin. It has other marks on the back: "800", "Silber" and some other mark (two letters i couldn't read).

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Posted by: boonicootza October 23, 2006 03:59 pm
It's indeed a regimental badge, I've seen one at the Military Museum, I'm not at home now so I can't post a picture.

Posted by: Kepi October 23, 2006 04:45 pm
Professor Corneliu Andonie said this is the unit badge of the Royal Escort (horse Guard) Regiment.
The facings colour of this unit was black as the enamel of the badge.

Posted by: dragos03 October 23, 2006 05:34 pm
QUOTE (Kepi @ October 23, 2006 04:45 pm)
Professor Corneliu Andonie said this is the unit badge of the Royal Escort (horse Guard) Regiment.
The facings colour of this unit was black as the enamel of the badge.

Thank you for the information.

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:26 am
Regimentul 2 Vânători - Regina Elisabeta
(2nd Vânători Regiment - Regina Elisabeta)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:29 am
Regimentul 6 de Gardă - Mihai Viteazul
(6th Guard Regiment - Mihai Viteazul)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:32 am
Regimentul 3 Artilerie - Franţa
(3rd Artillery Regiment - France)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:34 am
Regimentul 30 Artilerie - Chişinău
(30th Artillery Regiment - Chişinău)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:35 am
Regimentul 5 Artilerie Grea - Braşov
(5th Heavy Artillery Regiment - Braşov)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:45 am
Regimentul 7 Călăraşi - Botoşani
(7th Călăraşi Regiment - Botoşani)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:47 am
Regimentul 5 Roşiori - Ţarul Nicolae al II-lea al Rusiei
(5th Roşiori Regiment - Czar Nicholas II of Russia)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:49 am
Regimentul 6 Roşiori - Basarabia
(6th Roşiori Regiment - Bessarabia)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:55 am
Batalionul 1 Pionieri de Munte - Braşov
(1st Mountain Pioneers Batallion - Braşov)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 09:57 am
Regimentul de Jandarmi Pedeştri - Bucureşti
(Pedestrian Gendarmes Regiment - Bucharest)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 02:00 pm
QUOTE (Carol I @ December 22, 2006 10:32 am)
Regimentul 3 Artilerie - Franţa
(3rd Artillery Regiment - France)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

The Galerie had a similar badge for sale a couple of years ago.

QUOTE (Carol I @ June 21, 2004 10:55 am)
Regimentul 3 Artilerie - 3rd Artillery Regiment
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Source: Bogdan Stambuliu, La Galerie Numismatique Catalogue 2004, page 108.

Posted by: Carol I December 22, 2006 02:02 pm
QUOTE (Carol I @ December 22, 2006 10:57 am)
Regimentul de Jandarmi Pedeştri - Bucureşti
(Pedestrian Gendarmes Regiment - Bucharest)
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Source: La Galerie Numismatique

And another one like this as well.

QUOTE (Carol I @ November 04, 2004 09:11 am)
Regimentul de Jandarmerie Pedestră - Pedestrian Gendarmerie Regiment
Bucureşti
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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 23, 2006 12:15 pm
There is also a dark blue enamel version that was made of the Jendarne badge.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 23, 2006 01:48 pm
Are these badges available in the current auction ?

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 28, 2006 02:02 pm
I just received the current catalog and saw the regimental badges. Painfully priced.

Posted by: soboli December 31, 2006 12:37 pm
How much can this award cost?
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Posted by: soboli December 31, 2006 12:40 pm
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Posted by: soboli December 31, 2006 12:42 pm
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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR December 31, 2006 04:21 pm
300-600 Euros depending on condition

Posted by: refaim June 25, 2007 09:02 pm
Hello people

I am looking for badges of the 33rd infantry regiment, and for the 20th artilery regiment. Anyone can help?
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Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 17, 2008 03:25 pm
Just got this badge from a friend, I know it's a aviation one but that's all. Hope you can help me with more information.

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Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 17, 2008 03:26 pm
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Posted by: b737 June 18, 2008 05:42 pm
It seems to be the badge(copy) from the 2-nd Bombardment Flotilla,before they have recived the Aeronautical Virtue Order!

Flotila II Bombardament - 2nd Bomber Flotilla

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Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 18, 2008 06:22 pm
QUOTE (b737 @ June 18, 2008 05:42 pm)
It seems to be the badge(copy) from the 2-nd Bombardment Flotilla,before they have recived the Aeronautical Virtue Order!

Flotila II Bombardament - 2nd Bomber Flotilla

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Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

I don't understand, do you say it's a copy. Mine it's missing the Aeronautical Virtue Order. It's an original piece I have it from a frined whose uncle was an airforce mecanic in ww2.

Posted by: b737 June 19, 2008 09:30 am
Sorry,but from my point of wiew it is a copy! Maybe an old one but it is a copy! The leafs and the wreath are not clear,the manufacturing is rude and the needle is atypical for a regimental badge!
Don't forget that the regimental badges(as i know) have been awarded to officers ! Your friend's uncle was a mechanic that means ... there is a 90% probability that he was not an officer(ask your friend)!
It is possible that the members of this regiment/unit, have made copies from the original badge for themselves.
You can compare the dimensions from your badge with an original one, for example with the badge from the Aeronautical or Military Museum in Bucharest! You can try to contact them , maybe they can help you.
It would be interesting to know their opinion.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 19, 2008 12:30 pm
QUOTE (b737 @ June 19, 2008 09:30 am)
Sorry,but from my point of wiew it is a copy! Maybe an old one but it is a copy! The leafs and the wreath are not clear,the manufacturing is rude and the needle is atypical for a regimental badge!
Don't forget that the regimental badges(as i know) have been awarded to officers ! Your friend's uncle was a mechanic that means ... there is a 90% probability that he was not an officer(ask your friend)!
It is possible that the members of this regiment/unit, have made copies from the original badge for themselves.
You can compare the dimensions from your badge with an original one, for example with the badge from the Aeronautical or Military Museum in Bucharest! You can try to contact them , maybe they can help you.
It would be interesting to know their opinion.

I understand, I have sent an email to the MMN but the email comes back, do you know an other email address beside directoru@muzeulmilitar.ro because this one doesn't work.

Posted by: b737 June 19, 2008 01:12 pm
The correct email address is director@.... not directoru@....
Here are the contact informations:
http://www.muzeulmilitar.ro/contact/contact.html
http://www.roaf.ro/ro/muzeu.php

You can try also to call them.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR June 19, 2008 05:01 pm
QUOTE (b737 @ June 18, 2008 05:42 pm)
It seems to be the badge(copy) from the 2-nd Bombardment Flotilla,before they have recived the Aeronautical Virtue Order!

Flotila II Bombardament - 2nd Bomber Flotilla

user posted image
Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

I do not beleive that this badge is a copy. I have several WW2 Air Force badges of the same construction, sand cast. They also have the same pins with the rib design on them. All show wear and age to them and are of the period. I beleive that they were crudely made out in the field using the sand cast method of making molds and from metals found from melting down bullits and coins. Silver, nickle, brass and copper. Some of my badges were also veteran aquired. If they did not have the age, wear and provinance history of were and from whom they were aquired from, I too would say that they were fake badges. Last year, I came across a General Staff Acadamy badge that was also sand cast and made out in the field during WW2. Collectors are too use to seeing quality pieces made from jewlers and from the National Mint that they often look at cruder war time made pieces as being fake.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 19, 2008 05:46 pm
QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ June 19, 2008 05:01 pm)
QUOTE (b737 @ June 18, 2008 05:42 pm)
It seems to be the badge(copy) from the 2-nd Bombardment Flotilla,before they have recived the Aeronautical Virtue Order!

Flotila II Bombardament - 2nd Bomber Flotilla

user posted image
Source: Romanian Air Force Badges by George-Paul Sandachi

I do not beleive that this badge is a copy. I have several WW2 Air Force badges of the same construction, sand cast. They also have the same pins with the rib design on them. All show wear and age to them and are of the period. I beleive that they were crudely made out in the field using the sand cast method of making molds and from metals found from melting down bullits and coins. Silver, nickle, brass and copper. Some of my badges were also veteran aquired. If they did not have the age, wear and provinance history of were and from whom they were aquired from, I too would say that they were fake badges. Last year, I came across a General Staff Acadamy badge that was also sand cast and made out in the field during WW2. Collectors are too use to seeing quality pieces made from jewlers and from the National Mint that they often look at cruder war time made pieces as being fake.

Thanks for the help.

Posted by: b737 June 19, 2008 08:07 pm
@ claudiu1988 : In your opinion , "help" means only positive critique??

Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 19, 2008 08:24 pm
QUOTE (b737 @ June 19, 2008 08:07 pm)
@ claudiu1988 : In your opinion , "help" means only positive critique??

No not at all, but I have to thank you because you helped me, I didn't know nothing about the badge but with your help I learned a lot. I also sent a message to the aircraft museum as you mentioned to get more info. What do you want me to say???? unsure.gif

Posted by: b737 June 19, 2008 08:52 pm
I know that it is a bad feeling if somebody tells you that your badge is a copy!
In our activity as collectors we must face very often such situations.I think that the most of us have bought more than once a fake!
I had the feeling that you wanted to here only positeve feedback regarding your badge.
No offence!

Posted by: Claudiu1988 June 19, 2008 09:10 pm
QUOTE (b737 @ June 19, 2008 08:52 pm)
I know that it is a bad feeling if somebody tells you that your badge is a copy!
In our activity as collectors we must face very often such situations.I think that the most of us have bought more than once a fake!
I had the feeling that you wanted to here only positeve feedback regarding your badge.
No offence!

No problem, I know that feeling tongue.gif I tried it for several times. laugh.gif

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR September 02, 2008 06:30 pm
A new find for me. This is a badge I have not seen before.
2nd Obuziere Munte Artillery Regiment from Gherla, formed 1.7.1923 and disbanded in 1937.

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Posted by: boonicootza September 02, 2008 06:31 pm
Great looking badge!
Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: horia December 07, 2008 12:00 pm
romanian or franch? authentic or replic? thank you!
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renaultee2.jpg

Posted by: Alexei2102 December 07, 2008 09:37 pm
QUOTE (horia @ December 07, 2008 12:00 pm)
romanian or franch? authentic or replic? thank you!
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renaultee2.jpg

Looks like a cast copy.

Posted by: horia December 07, 2008 10:25 pm
the original badges are also cast.

Posted by: New Connaught Ranger December 08, 2008 01:37 pm
QUOTE (horia @ December 07, 2008 12:00 pm)
romanian or franch? authentic or replic? thank you!
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=renaultee2.jpg

In my opinion a poor quality fake,

the pin is way to thin to sustain much use.

Kevin in Deva. biggrin.gif

Posted by: SATHOR March 17, 2010 01:36 pm
what about this one,

http://www.jkmilitaria.com/Rom/Rom-49.JPG

no body? i know that is not a regimental badge, been more a qualification badge.
i'm interested more about it's condition, rarity,model,if is original or a copy,this qualification badge have classes as pp badges?...
my opinion is that it's an original badge made some where in the 20-30 until the begining of the second ww.so i wait other opinions and maybe pictures whit other models if somebody has, to compare or only to be happy ( "sa ne clatim ochii" smile.gif) )
good night every one.

Posted by: 1tap February 03, 2012 06:27 pm
Buna ziua! smile.gif
Gentlemen, thank you for sharing.
Some of the pics, especially in the beginning of the topic (for example http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=525&st=15#, http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=525&st=60# and http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=525&st=90#), can't be seen. Would you mind re-uploading these images? Please.

Posted by: king_tiger June 25, 2012 02:59 pm
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Posted by: Vranceanu June 25, 2012 07:06 pm
Hi ! Can somebody help me with this images ?

Regimental Badges for:

Regimentul 5 Artilerie Calareata
Regimentul (Divizionul) 104 Artilerie
Regimentul 18 Artilerie Constanta

Thanks !

Posted by: tudorjuc September 19, 2012 09:11 pm
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i wonder is this it?



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Posted by: tudorjuc September 19, 2012 09:44 pm
hello every one does eany one knows what is the badge ( a regimental one?) that Leonard Mociulschi were , it looks like a silver made one with 2 XX on a fir leaf. i would much appreciate some help in this mater.

Posted by: Victor September 21, 2012 07:22 am
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 25, 2012 09:06 pm)
Hi ! Can somebody help me with this images ?

Regimental Badges for:

Regimentul 5 Artilerie Calareata
Regimentul (Divizionul) 104 Artilerie
Regimentul 18 Artilerie Constanta

Thanks !

The badges were usually awarded after 4 years of service in the regiment. In case of the first two units you mentioned, the units themselves did not exist 7 years prior to WW2 so, theoretically, there were no badges to be awarded.

The 18th Artillery Regiment should have had a regimental badge though.

Posted by: Victor September 21, 2012 07:26 am
QUOTE (Victor @ September 21, 2012 09:22 am)
QUOTE (Vranceanu @ June 25, 2012 09:06 pm)
Hi ! Can somebody help me with this images ?

Regimental Badges for:

Regimentul 5 Artilerie Calareata
Regimentul (Divizionul) 104 Artilerie
Regimentul 18 Artilerie Constanta

Thanks !

The badges were usually awarded after 4 years of service in the regiment. In case of the first two units you mentioned, the units themselves did not exist 7 years prior to WW2 so, theoretically, there were no badges to be awarded.

The 18th Artillery Regiment should have had a regimental badge though.

Could be the the badge for the 20th Mountain Battalion, but, like above, this unit had not been around for 7 years to to have a badge and was in the 4th Mountain Brigade, while Mociulschi served in the 1st and then 3rd.

Posted by: Alexei2102 September 21, 2012 08:19 am
QUOTE (tudorjuc @ September 19, 2012 09:44 pm)
hello every one does eany one knows what is the badge ( a regimental one?) that Leonard Mociulschi were , it looks like a silver made one with 2 XX on a fir leaf. i would much appreciate some help in this mater.

It means the wearer has 20 years experience in the Mountain corps.

There are also badges with 10 and 15 in roman numerals for years of service.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR September 28, 2012 12:46 pm
Czar Nicholas was Honorary Colonel -en-Chief of the 7th Roshiori Cavalry Regiment. His Cypher was used into the start of WW2. Not sure if cypher removed when unit entered Russia?

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2354&hl=czar+nicholas


Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 17, 2012 04:24 pm
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/autotractregt3800euro.jpg/

Automobile Truck Regiment 7 Year Badge

Posted by: PenkOne October 11, 2013 07:30 pm
Hi guys ! I am looking after the 16th regiment badge.Anyone has seen or at least heard about that ? If you have images please post them.


Thank you.


Iulian.

Posted by: aviatiadasenzatia February 20, 2014 07:02 am
Iulian, "16th regiment"is vague. It can be Infantry, Artilery or anything else. More input.

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