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| WorldWar2.ro Forum > Awards & Badges > Hallmarks of Kretly and Lemaitre |
| Posted by: Cuza December 18, 2005 01:21 pm |
| The French court jewelers of A. Kretly and G. Lemaitre both manufactured early Romanian orders. Does anyone know what marks were identified with these jewelers? |
| Posted by: Carol I December 18, 2005 05:01 pm |
| On the back of the stars made by Krètly I have seen the following text in an oval mark: Nº46 KRÈTLY PALAIS-ROYAL PARIS |
| Posted by: Cuza December 19, 2005 05:07 pm | ||
That is their original place of manufacture. I was hoping to find out if they have a "letter" or "symbol" type of mark. Thanks for the information. |
| Posted by: Carol I December 19, 2005 06:41 pm | ||
I have seen one Krètly badge, but I did not notice any hallmark. |
| Posted by: Carol I December 19, 2005 08:03 pm |
| I know that G. Lemaitre of Paris was a manufacturer of Romanian orders during the reign of King Ferdinand. Did he manufacture early Romanian orders as well? |
| Posted by: Cuza December 20, 2005 01:29 pm | ||
According to Jacob Court Jewelers of the World, Lemaitre was founded in 1843 and made insignia for many countries until it was taken over by Bertrand in 1927. I believe that there were earlier Carol I era pieces, some of which were smaller in size than normal. No authority for this belief, just personal observation and opinion. |
| Posted by: Carol I December 20, 2005 05:00 pm | ||
Do you have any images of these "unusual" badges? |
| Posted by: Cuza December 20, 2005 05:32 pm | ||||
I am negotiating on a Crown set and if I get it, I will post pictures. |
| Posted by: Carol I December 20, 2005 10:21 pm | ||
Thanks. |
| Posted by: dragos03 December 21, 2005 04:17 pm |
| I asked a collector who has seen many orders about the hallmarks. He said that, apart from the text on the back of the stars mentioned by CarolI, the only other hallmarks that he noticed on these French-made orders are the French hallmarks for silver. One of them is a "Minerva" head. |
| Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 08:10 am | ||
Did you eventually obtain this set? |
| Posted by: Cuza May 07, 2006 02:40 pm | ||||
http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Cuza May 07, 2006 02:45 pm |
| Hallmarks on crown set. They are almost impossible to read-I scanned them at 1200 dpi and tried to adjust contrast and light to highlight. Maybe someone with French hallmark knowledge can help. My best guess is Lemaitre, but the marks could be Bertrand or Kretly. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Carol I May 07, 2006 02:51 pm | ||||||
The star appears to have the central crown quite similar to that of an Officer's cross that has been on eBay sometime ago.  Originally posted in http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1524&view=findpost&p=44780 |
| Posted by: Carol I June 26, 2006 03:10 pm | ||
The one to the left might be the mark of the Paris Assay Office (a boar head according to http://www.modernsilver.com/basichallmarks.htm). |
| Posted by: Carol I June 26, 2006 03:13 pm | ||||
The diamond-shaped mark seems different from the one on Cuza's piece.
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| Posted by: g_deploige June 27, 2006 12:55 pm |
| Here the halmark of Lemaitre in detail http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: dragos03 June 27, 2006 01:14 pm |
| Welcome to the forum, g_deploige. Thank you for posting the close-up of the hallmark. |
| Posted by: Cuza July 02, 2006 11:09 pm | ||
Here is a better scan of the hallmark from my Crown order-they appear to be the same. http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: g_deploige June 05, 2008 12:03 pm |
| Hello this is the hallmark of Arthus Bertrand  this firm stil existe, see http://www.arthus-bertrand.com Guy |
