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Posted by: Ahile November 29, 2005 04:10 pm

Do you have any information about the order, that the year 1916, 1941, 1944 and the royal symbol were graved in the order.I hope that you have understand what I sayd.

Ahile

Posted by: Carol I November 29, 2005 04:29 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 29 2005, 05:10 PM)

Do you have any information about the order, that the year 1916, 1941, 1944 and the royal symbol were graved in the order.I hope that you have understand what I sayd.

The Safta et al book you have describes them rather well.

Posted by: Ahile November 29, 2005 04:30 pm

I don't have the book's at me.I am asking your opinion.

Posted by: Carol I November 29, 2005 04:32 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 29 2005, 05:30 PM)

I don't have the book's at me.I am asking your opinion.

Then take a look on this site: http://www.worldwar2.ro/decoratii/?article=109.

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 09:48 am

I need information.I found the order of Michael the Brave 1916 in a box with the ferdinand logo on it.In the box there is writen there a name G. Lemaitre Paris.

FAKE or Original????/

Ahile

Posted by: Carol I November 30, 2005 10:48 am

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 30 2005, 10:48 AM)

I need information.I found the order of Michael the Brave 1916 in a box with the ferdinand logo on it.In the box there is writen there a name G. Lemaitre Paris.

FAKE or Original????/

Each of the items could or could not be authentic. And even if they are both authentic, the combination could or could not be authentic. Hard to say without images.

Posted by: b737 November 30, 2005 11:12 am

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 30 2005, 09:48 AM)

I need information.I found the order of Michael the Brave 1916 in a box with the ferdinand logo on it.In the box there is writen there a name G. Lemaitre Paris.

FAKE or Original????/

Ahile

Normaly,in this combination,I saw only the the Crown Order! I know that the Ordinul Mihai Viteazul was manufactured in Romania and a few pieces in Russia. I don't know wich classes and how many from them have been made in Russia till the October Revolution!
If your question regards the originality from this combination, I would say... it could be.....! Why not! They have used other boxes from the stock!
Regarding the order and the box... post some scans!

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR November 30, 2005 01:04 pm

Some Romanian orders were made in France as well as in Austria. The period box sounds correct. France supplied Romania with many uniforms and uniform parts during the late 1920's and early 1930's. There were also a few WW1 French recipients of the order. This could have been made for one of them.

Posted by: b737 November 30, 2005 01:43 pm

QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Nov 30 2005, 01:04 PM)

...but not in this case!

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 03:17 pm

Please tell me everything what you know about this person.

Ahile

Posted by: Carol I November 30, 2005 03:26 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 30 2005, 04:17 PM)

Please tell me everything what you know about this person.

French jeweller who made Romanian orders after WWI.

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 03:33 pm

HE HAS MADE ROMANIAN MEDALS?UNDER WHO'S ROYALYTY?OR HE WAS A MAN WHO REPLICATE ROMANIAN MEDALS.

I HAVE FOUND THE ORDER OF MICHAEL THE BRAVE 1916 ANDIN THE BOX IS THE NAME OF THIS MAN LEMAITRE.WHAT IS YOUR OPINION.

aHILE

Posted by: Carol I November 30, 2005 03:36 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ Nov 30 2005, 04:33 PM)

I HAVE FOUND THE ORDER OF MICHAEL THE BRAVE 1916 ANDIN THE BOX IS THE NAME OF THIS MAN LEMAITRE.WHAT IS YOUR OPINION.

Look http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1524&view=findpost&p=43092.

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 03:38 pm

i DID NOT UNDERSTOOD RIGHT.HE MADE FAKES.pLEASE TELL ME.

aHILE

Posted by: Dani November 30, 2005 03:42 pm

Would you please change the Caps Lock tab? It is very annoying...

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 03:44 pm

sorry

Posted by: Dani November 30, 2005 03:52 pm

Check http://www.antiquesandmilitaria.com/Romania.html
The fourth medal - Order of the Crown - It is written:Gilt bronze cross with original case of issue by G. Lemaitre, Paris. Typical French manufacturing with thin crown and very good details.
End quote.
As Regal Uniforma Collector stated (http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1524&view=findpost&p=43098) France jewellers manufactured some medals (and the casing too).

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 04:03 pm

I understand that he was a jeweler, but he was the first to make copyes, replica of the medals from the 20's.

Or he has like Joseph Resch?A original maker.

Ahile

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 04:07 pm

Why he made the Order of Michael the Brave?

Posted by: dragos03 November 30, 2005 04:23 pm

He was an official manufacturer. As others tried to explain, Romanian awards were manufactured also in France, Austria or Germany.

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 04:27 pm

OK. And it is possible he had made the Order of Michael the Brave class III 1916?

Do you know trickes to identify the real ones from the fakes.

Ahile

Posted by: dragos03 November 30, 2005 04:37 pm

If you look carefully in older topics in this section you will find some useful hints by Regal Uniforma Collector.

Some hints about fake Michael the Brave orders can be found in this topic:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=1246&st=0

Posted by: Ahile November 30, 2005 07:49 pm

Posted by: dragos03 November 30, 2005 10:40 pm

Ahile, i merged two of your topics. Please don't start new ones when there is already a similar discussion in an existing topic.

Posted by: Ahile December 01, 2005 08:01 am

Posted by: Ahile July 24, 2006 02:52 pm

how the enamel shoud be, blue lighter or blue darker.there are many diffrences.

Ahile

Posted by: Carol I July 24, 2006 02:58 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ July 24, 2006 03:52 pm)

how the enamel shoud be, blue lighter or blue darker.there are many diffrences.

It depends on the model. Which one do you have in mind?

Posted by: Ahile July 24, 2006 03:18 pm

3 rd class of the 1941

ahile

Posted by: Carol I July 24, 2006 03:23 pm

QUOTE (Ahile @ July 24, 2006 04:18 pm)

3 rd class of the 1941

That model had translucent dark blue enamel. Take a look in http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=3055 for genuine badges (but allow for differences due to colour rendering).

Posted by: Ahile August 17, 2006 06:40 pm

does anybody knows.the case for michael the brave 3rd class 1941, has in interior wrotten Monataria Nationala.But all the cases have this, I have seen two cases that is not wrotten nothing in the interior.What do you think

Ahile

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR August 18, 2006 12:05 pm

It is all different with each manufacture.

Posted by: Claudiu1988 September 24, 2006 10:37 am

How much does a Order of Michel the brave from 1941 third class cost in good conditions?

Posted by: mihai September 30, 2006 01:16 am

QUOTE (Claudiu1988 @ September 24, 2006 10:37 am)

How much does a Order of Michel the brave from 1941 third class cost in good conditions?

With or without box?
Original box is very rare ones.
Mihai

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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR March 08, 2009 07:54 pm

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