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Posted by: cainele_franctiror January 27, 2006 08:19 pm

How many generals were killed in actions during WW2?

Posted by: cainele_franctiror January 27, 2006 08:31 pm

It is right if we consider gen. Ioanitiu KIA?
Also, how actually died gen. Hercule Fortunescu?

Posted by: Dénes January 27, 2006 08:35 pm
QUOTE (cainele_franctiror @ Jan 28 2006, 02:31 AM)
It is right if we consider gen. Ioanitiu KIA?

I would say not. He died in an accident, albeit while in service.

I would categorise his death as 'died in the line of duty'.

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: cainele_franctiror January 27, 2006 08:39 pm

I heard that it is a film with this accident. Also, some photos, but I never saw one.

Posted by: Victor January 28, 2006 05:34 am
Major general http://www.worldwar2.ro/generali/?article=777, CO of the 15th Infantry Division, was KIA on 24 November 1942.

Bigadier general Alexandru Pastia, deputy CO of teh 1st Armored Division, KIA on 21 November 1942. He was promoted to the rank of general posthumously.

Fortunescu died on 1 March 1966.

Posted by: steen ammentorp January 29, 2006 08:39 pm
If we define KIA as killed as a result of enemy action I count the following as KIAs

Brigadier-General Grigore Balan, mortally wounded by artillery fire on 9th Sep. 1944 and died in hospital four days later.

Brigadier-General Ioan Danescu, killed by artillery fire on 2nd Oct. 1941. Posthumously promoted to Brigadier-General.

Major-General Ion Glogojanu, killed by an enemy mine on 22nd Oct. 1941.

Plus the two mentioned by Victor.

However if you define KIA as instant death as a result of enemy action the Balan and Glogojanu shouldn't count.

I do have a question though. Does anybody have information on the circumstances of the death of these two:

Lieutenant-General Florea Mitranescu
Brigadier-General Corneliu Serghievici

Both died while in service.

Kind Regards
Steen Ammentorp
http://www.generals.dk

Posted by: Carol I January 29, 2006 11:01 pm
QUOTE (steen ammentorp @ Jan 29 2006, 09:39 PM)
Major-General Ion Glogojanu, killed by an enemy mine on 22nd Oct. 1941.

This has happened at the http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=461.

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR July 03, 2006 01:09 am
http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002448gc.jpg

Photograph of Major General Ion Glogojanu, Commander of the Romanian 10th Division, Killed in the Odessa bombing of the Romanian HQ.

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=461

Posted by: LORNITZ January 13, 2007 05:39 pm


THE FOLLOWING WERE GENERALS WHO DIED DURING WOLRD WAR II:

GENERAL ION BENGLIU
GENERAL FLOREA MITRANESCU
GENERAL OCTAVIAN GEORGESCU
GENERAL DOBRE PARASCHIV
GENERAL DUMIRU VASILIU
GENERAL SAVA CARACAS
GENERAL ION DANESCU
GENERAL CORNELIU SERGHIEVICI

IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS DETAILS ABOUT THEM PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
THANKS IN ADVANCE!


BEST REGARDS

LORNITZ

Posted by: Carol I January 13, 2007 10:32 pm
QUOTE (LORNITZ @ January 13, 2007 06:39 pm)
THE FOLLOWING WERE GENERALS WHO DIED DURING WOLRD WAR II:

GENERAL ION BENGLIU
GENERAL FLOREA MITRANESCU
GENERAL OCTAVIAN GEORGESCU
GENERAL DOBRE PARASCHIV
GENERAL DUMIRU VASILIU
GENERAL SAVA CARACAS
GENERAL ION DANESCU
GENERAL CORNELIU SERGHIEVICI

Gen. I. Bengliu was assassinated before the war, on 26/27 November 1940. Two other generals were assassinated that day: Gen. G. Argeseanu and Gen. G. Marinescu (see the thread on http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2450&view=findpost&p=47434).

On the other hand, at least three names are missing from the list of WWII deaths: http://www.generals.dk/general/Ioanitiu/Alexandru/Romania.html, http://www.worldwar2.ro/generali/?article=777 and http://www.worldwar2.ro/generali/?article=97.

Posted by: dragos03 January 14, 2007 12:47 pm
There are several names missing from these lists.

One of them is Brigade General (post-mortem) Tocineanu D. Petrescu. While he was the commander of the 9th Infantry Division, Petrescu was KIA on 10 February 1943 by an artillery shell during the fights near Abinskaia, in the Caucasus.

Brigade General (Post Mortem) Cristu Cantuniar died of exhaustion in a Bucharest hospital on 1 October 1942 after leading the 6th Cavalry Division in the offensive and defensive actions in the Caucasus. Although he was sick, Cantuniar refused to be evacuated earlier and insisted on leading his unit during the defensive battle near Ahtarskaia (15-26 September), when 22 enemy attacks were repulsed. He was sent home after the end of the battle, following an order of the General Staff, too late to save his life.

Brigade General (pm) Gheorghe Carp, commander of the 7th Rosiori Regiment, was KIA on 2 September 1942 on Hill 205 in the Sukka-Novorosiisk Valley, when his command platoon was ambused by a Soviet unit.

Brigade General (pm) Ervin Claus, the commander of the 4th Rosiori Regiment, was killed on 24 September 1942 after an enemy air attack on the Kerci port.

Brigade General (pm) Raul Halunga, commander of the 10th Vanatori Regiment, was killed by an artillery shell at Bujalik on 28 August 1941, during the siege of Odessa.

Brigade General (pm) Gheorghe V. Ionescu, commander of the 6th Artillery Regiment, was KIA by machinegun fire at Katerinovka on 9 August 1941, while he was coordonating the fire of his unit from the front lines during the siege of Odessa.

Brigade General (pm) Emanoil S. Lucescu, commander of the 36th Artillery Regiment, was killed on 28 February 1942 at Tulumceak (in Crimea). After an enemy attack broke through the positions of the Romanian infantry, Lucescu's artillerymen opened direct fire on the approaching enemy infantry and then tried to defend their guns in hand-to-hand fighting when the enemy reached their positions. During these fights, the officer was mortally wounded.

Brigade General (pm) Andrei Nasta, deputy commander of the 21st Infantry Division, was KIA on 31 August 1941 at Vakarjani, when he was leading a bayonet charge during the siege of Odessa.

Brigade General (pm) Gheorghe Niculescu, commander of the 12th Dorobanti Regiment, was KIA on 9 July 1941 at Epureni (Bassarabia), while he was personally leading an infantry assault on the enemy positions.

Brigade General (pm) Dumitru Orasanu, commander of the "Lunca" battlegroup, was killed on 29 August 1941 by an enemy airstrike at Freudenthal, during the siege of Odessa.

Brigade General (pm) Richard Rottenburg, commander of the 9th Mountain Infantry Group, was KIA on 18 July 1941 at Kozlov, while leading his men from the front lines during the enemy attempt to eliminate the Romanian bridgehead on the Dniester.

Brigade General (pm) Constantin Simionescu, commander of the 39th Infantry Regiment, was KIA on 19 November 1942, while personally leading a counterattack of his encircled unit during the Battle of the Don's Bend.

Brigade General (pm) Caton Sorescu, commander of the 8th Vanatori Regiment, died on 6 September 1941 in a hospital in Iasi after being mortally wounded on 2 September in the Freudenthal area, during the siege of Odessa.

Brigade General (pm) Alexandru Toparlan, commander of the 23rd Inf. Regiment, was KIA on 13 September 1941 on Hill 66.8 near Dalnik, while personally leading a counterattack.

Gen. Hugo Schwab, commander of the 7th Army Corps, commited suicide on 24 August 1944 at Humulesti, to avoid being captured by the Soviets.

Posted by: dragos03 January 14, 2007 12:49 pm
Some info on the others:

General-Engineer Dumitru Vasiliu, the Head of the Army's Fortifications Department, was KIA in June 1942, during the battle for Sevastopol.

Brigade General (pm) Ioan Danescu, the commander of the 8th Cavalry Brigade, died on 2 October 1941, after being mortally wounded by artillery the previous day at his command post at Veselaie, during the Battle of the Azov Sea.

Florea Mitranescu died of disease and exhaustion on 21 February 1944.

Posted by: Victor January 14, 2007 05:47 pm
IMO those that the colonels thaty were promoted posthumously to the rank of brigadier-general should not be included in the list, except if they held a brigadier-general position, like col. Ioan Danescu or col. Alexandru Pastia.

Posted by: dragos03 January 14, 2007 06:04 pm
Well, in this case at least Tocineanu D. Petrescu and Cristu Cantuniar should count, since they were division commanders.

Posted by: LORNITZ January 18, 2007 06:35 am

EXCELLENT! THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!

BEST REGARDS

Posted by: LORNITZ January 20, 2007 10:42 am
There still a big missing on my list, Generals Paraschiv and Caracas. What happen to them? Any info?


BEST REGARDS

LORNITZ

Posted by: Victor January 21, 2007 02:06 pm
QUOTE (dragos03 @ January 14, 2007 08:04 pm)
Well, in this case at least Tocineanu D. Petrescu and Cristu Cantuniar should count, since they were division commanders.

Dimitrie Tocineanu Petrescu was the CO of the 19th Infantry Brigade and thus the deputy commander of the 19th Infantry Division (and not the 9th ID). The commander was maj. general Carol (or Karl) Schmidt. Colonel Dimitrie Tocineanu Petrescu replaced general Schmidt during his short appointment as CO of the 1st Armored Division between 20 August - 10 October 1941 (when brig. gen. Sion was under investigation following the events at Karpova) and then during his leave between 18 December 1942 and 7 January 1943. Thus, on 11 February 1943, when colonel Petrescu was killed by an aircraft bomb (this is the version I found) he was not the CO of the 19th Infantry Division, but the deputy commander.

Colonel Cristu Cantuniar can indeed be considered a casualty of war, even though he was not killed in combat.

Brig. gen. Sava Caracas died on 12 March 1945 in the hospital in Alba Iulia. Brig. gen. Dobre Paraschiv died on 8 January 1942 in Bucharest. Both held administrative jobs at the time of their deaths, which was not the result of military action.

Posted by: LORNITZ January 22, 2007 04:05 am


There still one missing on my list he is Major-General Octavian Georgescu. Can anyone give me details on him?


Best Regards

LOrnitz

Posted by: mabadesc January 24, 2007 03:13 pm
QUOTE
On the other hand, at least three names are missing from the list of WWII deaths: Gen. A. Ioanitiu, Gen. I. Sion and Gen. G. Avramescu.


According to the very few archival documents from the Russian Central Archives that I was able to get my hands on, General Avramescu had been detained and was being driven in a Buick, license plate S87550, sitting in the back middle seat. In the front seat of the car was Lt. General Koriolov, Commander of the 2nd Ukrainian Front Counter-Espionage section (SMERS). Avramescu, in the back seat, was surrounded by Lt.-Colonel Soroka, Chief of 2nd Section (also of 2nd Uk. Front), and Lt.-Colonel Ostretov, Chief of Section 4.

The car, being driven at night, was strafed with 20mm explosive rounds machine gun fire by a german plane. The path of the bullets went through the middle of the car, and the only person hit (and killed instantaneously) was General Avramescu, according to the report, signed by the other 3 senior Soviet officers present.

One should be, however, very skeptical about the report, given the turbulent times. One should also ask himself how it was possible that a car strafed with 20mm explosive rounds only hit 1 person from the 5 people present in the car (4 officers plus 1 chauffeur).

It is furthermore suspicious that the car was examined by Lt-Colonel Andrianko himself, the Chief Engineer of Armament for the 2nd Ukranian Front, who speculated that the 20mm rounds were of poor quality and did not explode - thus resulting in small damage to the car.

Sorry for the long-winded answer....


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