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Posted by: Agarici April 26, 2013 12:15 pm
What's the story of Cluj Guard Flotilla? What was the compozition of this unit and for how long it kept its name?

As far as I know, the unit received the name from king Carol II after his return to Romania in 1930. He first landed at Cluj, and the officers from the aviation unit stationed there constituted a sort of a honour guard for him - hence the name.

Any additional info? Thank you!

Posted by: Petre April 26, 2013 03:06 pm
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroportul_Interna%C8%9Bional_Baia_Mare

Posted by: Agarici April 27, 2013 12:09 am
Thank you for the reply, Petre. But is the info from that link accurate? It is somehow contrary to what I konw.

By the way, the Guard Flotilla was in fact an observation aviation flotilla, wasn't it?

Posted by: Victor April 27, 2013 01:36 pm
Yes, it was an observation unit. In 1939 it still had the name, so I guess it kept it until Carol II abdicated. Afterwards it was renamed the 2nd Observation Flotilla (Flotila 2 Informatii).

Posted by: Agarici April 27, 2013 06:12 pm
Thank you, Victor! Any additional info?

Posted by: Alexandru C. April 27, 2013 09:41 pm
Regarding the topic Carol II Cup from 1934
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=6530
in the article it’s mentioned that some of the crews were from the Cluj and Bucharest flotillas and the winner crew was from the Guard Flotilla.
I suppose it's the Cluj Guard Flotilla.

Posted by: Alexandru C. April 29, 2013 09:38 am
Searching on the internet I found this interesting link:
http://www.ceasuripentruromania.ro/ceasuri.php?id_article=11&language=english

In the doc. appears the following pilots from the Guard Flotilla:
Eusebiu Popovici
Anastase Stratulat
Grigore Safciuc
Ioan Curteanu

The question is, do you know if the Guard Flotilla existed only in Cluj?

Posted by: Agarici April 29, 2013 11:41 pm
Thanks for your feedback, Alexandru C. As far as I know, the Guard Flotilla was the name of a specific aviation unit stationed near Cluj (on Someseni airfield), not of a type of unit (like those from the WW 2 Soviet airforce). In ARR a flotilla was composed of 2-3 aviation groups which included 2-3 squadrons (rather 2) each, so it could have also had a reserve airfield too, but I never heard about that.

As endowment, it should have used the Potez XXV and then the SET K 7 and/or the IAR 37/38/39. Victor, I remember having red somevhere about the Romanian Blenheims being flown from Someseni airfield; could they be part of the same flotilla, as longer range recon planes?

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Posted by: Petre April 30, 2013 03:12 pm
QUOTE (Agarici @ April 29, 2013 11:41 pm)
... the Guard Flotilla was the name of a specific aviation unit ..., not of a type of unit (like those from the WW 2 Soviet airforce)

For the soviet units and ships, "Guard" was an award

Posted by: Alexandru C. May 01, 2013 05:29 am
Yes, my impression was that Guard Flotilla it means a type of unit, part of an aviation group, or something like this. Thanks for the details.
Alexandru

Posted by: Petre May 01, 2013 08:52 am
Or may have been in those years sometthing like "Aviasan" rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Victor May 03, 2013 08:11 am
QUOTE (Alexandru C. @ May 01, 2013 07:29 am)
Yes, my impression was that Guard Flotilla it means a type of unit, part of an aviation group, or something like this. Thanks for the details.
Alexandru

Actually, as a form of military organization, the flotilla super-seeds the aviation group.

Posted by: Agarici May 03, 2013 09:28 pm
QUOTE (Victor @ May 03, 2013 08:11 am)
QUOTE (Alexandru C. @ May 01, 2013 07:29 am)
Yes, my impression was that Guard Flotilla it means a type of unit, part of an aviation group, or something like this. Thanks for the details.
Alexandru

Actually, as a form of military organization, the flotilla super-seeds the aviation group.


That's correct, I edited my earlier post accordingly. But was that unit as big as a flotilla?

Posted by: Alexandru C. August 13, 2014 05:29 pm
Some pics (new, I think) here
http://airportcluj.ro/despre-aeroport/82-ani

one of them with the Guard Flotilla.

Posted by: Dénes August 14, 2014 06:07 am
I wasn't aware that Hungarian Bf 109Gs were stationed on Cluj airfield in 1942. laugh.gif

Gen. Dénes

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