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| Posted by: Tommy September 14, 2008 07:21 pm |
| Hi i bought many negative in this lot i found this memorial...Is this in Romania area is 1915-1918. This is from a German soldier the Photo.. http://img-up.net |
| Posted by: Victor September 15, 2008 11:24 am |
| Actually it looks more like an Independence War memorial. |
| Posted by: Tommy September 16, 2008 05:47 pm |
| Do you know is this in Romania???You can see behind a sign with romanian or italian language.. |
| Posted by: Dénes September 16, 2008 06:22 pm |
| The text on the banner is in Rumanian. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: bansaraba September 17, 2008 01:13 am |
| Isn't that banner looking strange? Like a later addition to the photo? The text says "Tipografia Libraria Nationala Vasile(?) C. ?imovici" Which means "National Typography (&) Bookstore [person name]" And what's with the vandalized monument? The statue is down and the commemorative plaques are gone... |
| Posted by: Victor September 17, 2008 06:05 am |
| Impossible to tell. Maybe Turkish troops had just passed through the village or maybe it was undegtoing repairs at the time the war started. |
| Posted by: Tommy September 17, 2008 04:23 pm |
| It is a Negative from the WW1 and i think too this statue was down from the socket.. i can post more scans what i mean romanians and turkeys... |
| Posted by: d1ragos September 18, 2008 08:47 am | ||
I think that is a stamp not a banner. |
| Posted by: d1ragos September 18, 2008 08:49 am | ||
Please do that many thanks |
| Posted by: Dénes September 18, 2008 12:22 pm | ||
I don't think so (as it has a shadown on the bottom). Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: d1ragos September 18, 2008 01:08 pm |
| You are right ; now that you mentioned it , I saw the shadow on the bottom. |
| Posted by: bansaraba September 18, 2008 01:47 pm |
| Yes, the rectangle has a "shadow" under it, but it is clearly a drawing. At that angle, the shadow of a real object isn't symmetrical (watch the windows and doors below). Besides, the entire rectangle has a strange position on the roof of that building, it lacks the perspective. I don't think it was there when the picture was taken. |
| Posted by: Dénes September 18, 2008 01:56 pm |
| This is an original negative, not a retouched photo print! Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Tommy September 18, 2008 04:48 pm |
| original from a negative it is not good scaned... i think Romanian with white flags.. http://img-up.net |
| Posted by: Kepi September 19, 2008 06:19 am | ||
This statue is quite unknown… It represents a Dorobantz (territorial infantryman) of the Independence War (1877-78), and it is very well made. It should be raised in a capital town of one of the southern Romanian counties, in Wallachia, occupied by Central Powers troops in 1916. This kind of statues were located in the main square of the towns. I think the town was the garrison of an ex-Dorobantzes regiment that fought in the war of 1877-78. As the statue doesn't appear in the famous album presenting all the units of the Romanian army, published in 1902, then it was raised since that year. It's easy to see that the statue was damaged. It lost the right arm and the plates on the pedestal disappeared. The statue was carefully brought down, not overturned, from the socle, possibly with a view to a future transport. Maybe the monument was a victim of the Central Powers penury of bronze, as a strategic raw material. There is a lot of information about bells of the romanian churches confiscated by germans during the occupation of Wallachia, for their most valuable material. |
| Posted by: Tommy September 20, 2008 07:46 pm |
| here more romans????? http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/img295/rummaneneh5.jpg/1/ |
| Posted by: Dénes September 20, 2008 07:56 pm |
| Yes, they could very well be Rumanians, but this is not entirely sure, as their dress and the flat top lamb skin hat seems to be uncommon... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Tommy September 20, 2008 08:10 pm |
| Hi thanks Denes i have more negative with many unknown uniforms .. can i post it here??? Nice negative some sharper... |
| Posted by: bansaraba September 20, 2008 08:28 pm |
| Are those military men Russians, Bulgarians or Hungarians? |
| Posted by: C-2 September 20, 2008 09:22 pm |
| Those are 100% romans. The scull bones ..... |
| Posted by: New Connaught Ranger September 21, 2008 07:01 pm |
| I believe the men to be Prussians / Germans, the picture is obviously from W.W.1 period. Of interest is the man in the background, although in peasant dress, he sports a "Red Cross" armband, the group of men might be prisoners, or a work party. Kevin in Deva.  |
| Posted by: Kepi September 22, 2008 05:50 am | ||
Yes, the military are Germans of WW1, but is not clear if they are Prussians or from other part of the German Empire. It depends on the colours of the national cockades on their caps. It seems to be a corvee party for the german army somewhere in a wallachian village during the Central powers occupation of southern Romania, most probably during the winter of 1917-1918. The German officers convoked the male population of a village for some works. The Romanian checking the lists near the German officer wears a Romanian officer tunic with no rank insignia. |
| Posted by: Tommy October 04, 2008 06:27 pm |
| here some more negative.. http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wk1soldaten33ud6.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php |
| Posted by: Dénes October 04, 2008 08:52 pm |
| These men are not Rumanian. They look more like Russian. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Tommy October 04, 2008 09:28 pm |
| Hi Denes thanks.. here other groups perhaps i must write identyfy my unknown persons.. Sorry... http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wk1sebenor7.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php are this Turkey??? http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wk1trkenat4.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php |
| Posted by: Dénes October 04, 2008 09:43 pm |
| The men on the top photo don't look Rumanian either. The soldiers on the bottom photo indeed appear to me as Turkish. Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Tommy October 04, 2008 09:53 pm |
| Many thanks the last one... What is this for a uniform??? http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wk1soldaten25tv1.jpghttp://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php |
| Posted by: Dénes October 04, 2008 10:09 pm |
| These are railroad worker's uniforms, and I don't have the knowledge to identify them. Entschuldigung... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Kepi October 05, 2008 04:37 am | ||
They are russian POWs, probably captured by the Germans or Austrians on the romanian front. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 05, 2008 04:47 am | ||
The people on the upper photo seems to wear the traditional montenegrin costume. They might be POWs or workers brought from Montenegro for some works in Wallachia during 1917-1918. In the lower photo there are bosnian military of the austro-hungarian army, in 1917 or 1918. The bosnians wore regular KuK uniforms but had fezes, as they are muslims. The turkish soldiers wore a kind of sun hemet as headear during WW1. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 05, 2008 04:53 am | ||
They are railroad workers ideed. The two persons on the left are wearing uniforms of the austro-hungarian state railroads. The guy on the right wears a romanian railroad uniform. Maybe the photo was taken in Predeal where it was the frontier station between Romania and Austro-Hungary. |
| Posted by: Dénes October 05, 2008 07:27 am |
| Kepi, what about the soldier faintly seen in the background? His uniform doesn't look to me neither Hungarian, nor Rumanian... Gen. Dénes |
| Posted by: Kepi October 05, 2008 08:09 am | ||
He seems to be a german military (NCOs ?) because of the round cap and the small round cockades and the cut of the tunic. |
| Posted by: Tommy October 05, 2008 10:23 am |
| Many thanks for your infos perfect. I collect negative so in a new order i become many negative from a soldier first in france later in Romania etc. When you will i can post more for me unknown uniforms and costume.. Many thanks Tommy |