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| Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 09:07 am |
| Does anyone know if a Kubelwagen type 82 still exists in Romania? I learned that for WW2 pictures, the producers hired this kind of cars from our neighbour countries: Bulgaria, Croatia (for “Amen”) or used the modern Wolkswagen type 181, as it happened in “Train de Vie”. I remember that, at the end of 1970’s I’ve seen a Kubelwagen type 82 in a street of Bucharest. What was its fate? |
| Posted by: C-2 October 02, 2005 10:35 am |
| What have you seen is a" modern"kubelwagen. Also made at the Beattle bassis. A 2000cc.Was used by the German army and from him the famous Beach Buggy was created. I have a friend who has one in Dristor.The eangine is distroyed for more then 10 years. |
| Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 10:49 am | ||
I'm sure it was a real WW2 Kubelwagen. I remember I was in a bus near Academia Militara, about 1977-78. The car was droven by a guy and was near my bus for almost 1 minute, then turned to another street. Maybe it was not a Romanian car and it was brought only for a movie. I can't remember the registrated plates. A Kubelwagen type 82 was used in the movie "Stejar, extrema urgenta", produced in 1973-74. Was that a romanian car? |
| Posted by: dragos October 02, 2005 10:57 am |
| http://www.autoshow.ro/autoshow/articles/?article_id=1276 You can try to contact Bogdan Coconoiu here: http://www.retromobil.ro/ If you don't succeed, let me know by PM. |
| Posted by: C-2 October 02, 2005 11:00 am |
| Bravo Dragos! |
| Posted by: Kepi October 02, 2005 12:00 pm | ||
Very intersting information. Thank you very much. |
| Posted by: Victor October 06, 2005 12:41 pm |
| I have seen this Kubelwagen in August this year, in the parking lot of the Sinaia railstation. I couldn't get closer for a better photo, because of the security guards. There was a Italian movie being filmed in Sinaia and they had rented the parking lot for their trucks. I think though that they brought this Kubelwagen with them from Italy. |
| Posted by: mihnea October 06, 2005 01:17 pm |
| There are two kubel’s, and other cars. But very interesting is the absence of the front Notek camouflage light on the first kubel. Might it be a high quality repro? |
| Posted by: AUTOMOBILIA March 09, 2006 07:42 pm |
| I think it was this car, sorry is in Germany since 1992. In Amin was an original car + a copy, I'll post pictures soon, I rent some historic cars at that movie . Two 181 is all that we have in Romania at this moment , and a replica on a Trabant platform .... http://imageshack.us |
| Posted by: Ferdinand February 25, 2008 11:01 am |
| guys i just found out that there is a kubelwagen in romania, somewhere near ploiesti! i've got the info from 2 guys in ploiesti that are familiar with ww2 stuff. i want one, even if i'll buy a repro.  |
| Posted by: mihnea February 25, 2008 03:20 pm |
| I think it's the trabant based repro seen in "Noi cei din linia intai". |
| Posted by: Ferdinand May 22, 2008 02:54 pm |
are these romanian old number plates for IASI?  http://imageshack.us i'm not a specialist in romanian uniforms but i pretty sure that some guys in the picture are romanians  http://imageshack.us source: cd with ww2 photos |
| Posted by: C-2 May 22, 2008 07:37 pm |
| IS is Iasi allright. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand May 22, 2008 08:48 pm |
C-2, wouldn't be nice if we wenton a battlefield with a kubel(even a repro)  |
| Posted by: C-2 May 23, 2008 10:49 am |
| A repro is easy to make. All you need is an old VW Beattle. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand May 23, 2008 05:06 pm | ||
 says who? have you made one? have you forgot that we have a very friendly institution called ARR?  |
| Posted by: mihnea May 23, 2008 05:13 pm |
| I wonder how easy is to make a replica , first you need a pre 1967 beetle (rare vehicles and collector items, I have seen only a hand full in Romania) then make the body from steel but you need a lot of experience in sheet metal forming as all the panels are stamped metal and don't have simple shapes, if you want to make it from fiber glass you need molds to make the molds you need an original... or easier buy all the body panels, not cheap : http://www.kooblekar.com/ So easy... I don't think so.  |
| Posted by: mihnea May 23, 2008 05:16 pm | ||||
Don't bother with ARR it's easyer to buy a trailer and problem solved  |
| Posted by: C-2 May 23, 2008 08:48 pm |
| The Kubel /beattle are cars easy to make. Actualy if you look under them you'll see that they are not simetrical. They were suposed to be built easily,with low costs and hight numbers. The most dificult part are the doors. Much more dificult is to find suitable wheels. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand May 28, 2008 08:46 am |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z4rq0pgs7c how nice is the engine sounding! |
| Posted by: Kepi May 28, 2008 09:46 am |
| I think it's easier to recreate a soviet "Jeep" as the czech reenactors did. They transformed a GAZ-69 vehicle into a WW2 recconaissance car. See an image of the latest reconstruction of the liberation of Brest (in Czech Republic) of 17th of May, 2008. A "soviet" Jeep transporting 10 "romanian soldiers"(real romanian and czech reenactors) during that event. The 10th person was shooting the picture...  http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1laVlJ See: http://6dorobanti.ro/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1211219094 |
| Posted by: Ferdinand May 28, 2008 12:15 pm | ||
thanks for the advice kepi, but not interested in soviet militaria  i prefer a kubel and deal with ARR and all. also is too bad to modify an ARO M461(ims.....romanian gaz). i have friends that have totally rebuild an IMS, and after 100km the oil started to leak from direction. and the gaskets were new. i'd prefer to rebuild an vw engine, with german, not turkish parts, and that for sure will do 100.000 km. i think it would be nice to have a kubel in romania, even a repro. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand June 05, 2008 01:03 pm |
| thanks to a good friend, i'm proud to present to you my first piece from a big "puzzle". original paint and full functioning ...found in romania: overpainted in dak color http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us original color ...feldgrau http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us danke marinopel |
| Posted by: mihnea June 05, 2008 02:06 pm |
| Nice also it was initially field grey. I see you are missing the base. Guess you know this one:http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV2oD4E9 |
| Posted by: Messerschmitt June 05, 2008 03:40 pm |
| is the DAK paint original? many vechicles were resprayed when they were sent to Africa. And also, the factory provided armor in field grey. This one is probbably from a SdKfz 11. |
| Posted by: mihnea June 05, 2008 04:45 pm |
| I'm not sure it's DAK color as from 1943 most (all new ones) German vehicles were repainted with Dunkelgelb nach Muster (Dunkelgelb RAL 7028). SdKfz 11?? Notec lights were used on vehicles from motorcycles to tanks so it's impossible to know from what vehicle it is. |
| Posted by: Messerschmitt June 05, 2008 05:13 pm | ||
As far as i know, DAK SdKfz`s had one of these, so that`s why i said this. Anyway, i don`t think any of these things survived from a "dead" Panzer. |
| Posted by: Ferdinand June 05, 2008 08:35 pm | ||
then how about this piece?! 7.5 cm PAK (panzerabwehrkanone=anti-tank gun) it hs some marks: 44(year) bnf-manufacturer Polte Wolfenbeuttel Metallwerk GMBH and the cap(i don't know the word for "capsa") is marked: nhr- manuf. Rheinmetall-Borsig AG, workshop Werk Soemmerda it is marked also 7.5 cm kwk 46(kwk= kampfwagenkanone=fight vehicle) http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us http://imageshack.us original from panzer 4 |
| Posted by: mircea_cotiga June 06, 2008 06:24 am | ||
It will be one repro based on a vw pre 67 beetle!...Idon't know when, yet! I dont know how to put a picture!http://imageshack.us http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=354&i=rt018gc7.jpg...it work's |
| Posted by: dragos June 06, 2008 08:43 am |
| Discussion on a dug up shell has been moved here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=4728 mircea, about posting a picture, see this guide: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2093 |
| Posted by: Ferdinand June 06, 2008 11:52 am | ||
is it for sale? it will to go junkyard anyway, if it will stay 3-4 years. note that it has the original rubbers gasket. |
| Posted by: mihnea June 06, 2008 12:14 pm |
| I'm 100% you have seen it 4 weeks ago. http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV2vSbkS |
| Posted by: Ferdinand June 06, 2008 12:19 pm | ||
i know! but i really want it! |
| Posted by: mircea_cotiga June 06, 2008 01:52 pm |
| @ dragos It work's, i put the picture in previous post. Thank's |
| Posted by: mihnea June 06, 2008 02:20 pm |
| It looks nice only problem I can see now, but it might be temporary, is the suspension it needs to be heightened especially in front. Also what is that square section pipe doing in front of the kubel? Any info on the project I see the fenders are fiber glass what about the rest? Were do you live, Bucharest? |
| Posted by: mircea_cotiga June 06, 2008 07:55 pm |
| I know that spindles must to be lowered, but first i want to be street legal...and i will use the beetle originals. Aftet that... Fenders are from glass fibre like all the body and the rectangular pipes (because trere is one more in back of the body) let me roll over the body, during the work(it's a trik) Trere will be cut of finaly! Yes i'm from bucureshit! P.S. Yf you have time you can read the topic at vwforum below http://vwforum.vwforum.ro/index.php?s=&showtopic=15012&view=findpost&p=225749 but i don't now the pictures are availeble! |
| Posted by: mihnea June 09, 2008 05:55 pm |
| So you make all the body panels are you going to sell body kits when you finish? Unfortunately I can't see any pictures on VWforum. When is it going to be ready and what about the rims? I remember that a about a year ago or so at the Pantelimon fair I have seen a set of four VW rims the early type they seemed to be big but I'm not sure they were 16" as I'm no expert. |
| Posted by: mircea_cotiga June 09, 2008 08:47 pm |
| Well, the 'all body panels" will be in one piece. The entire body is single piece except the interior(that will be a single piece to)and the fenders I don't think at selling kits for this moment but yes, why not? I'm sorry for the pictures...i don't know why they hide the pictures...i try to put some more here. Is a lot of work...with the rims there's a problem: first, i don't find five 16" rims(aro, TV)and i have to modify the interior to 5x205, second, the 5.25x16" repro tires are prohibitive for me(about 1000e).. I have an alternative option-to keep the 15" rims and to use 7.00x15 military tires(same money, less work to do) |
| Posted by: mihnea June 10, 2008 02:41 pm |
| I have seen the pictures nice work and attention to details like with the door locks. If you continue with this attention it will be a very nice repro. If you will sell the body parts I'm interested I would love to have a kubel. I think the 15" rims will work ok after seeing this photo only thing is to find some skinny tires. http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1Cf1S |
| Posted by: Florin July 14, 2008 12:30 pm |
| ...And when you need to refuel it, the best for the job would be my own genuine gasoline canister, made for SS. |