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guina	Posted: February 24, 2011 10:34 pm
Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 339 Member No.: 1393 Joined: April 16, 2007	so the germans were inspired by rromas.

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Posted: February 26, 2011 08:36 am

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QUOTE (Florin @ February 24, 2011 05:46 am)

When I was in primary school and high school, I could witness in the language the expression "I-a mardit una" / "I-am mardit una", which can be translated only by its meaning. It meant "He kicked one hit in his jaw / head" / "I kicked one hit in his jaw / head".

Many years later, after using Internet in the U.S., I learned about the German self propelled gun "Marder", which was issued to the Romanian Army as well. The verb "a mardi" or "a mardit" cannot be found in a Romanian dictionary (maybe only in "Dictionar de argou", published before 1989; also, I may be wrong with this title).
I guess its usage started after the Romanian soldiers witnessed the "Marder" in action.

The Marder was never in use with the Romanian Army.

Radub	Posted: February 26, 2011 11:53 am
General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005	There are plenty of other examples of German words used in Romanian that can be traced to warfare equipment http://dexonline.ro/definitie/brand "Brand" = punch / Brand = Mortar http://dexonline.ro/definitie/doxă "Doxa" = precise knowledge / "Doxa" = precise mechanism http://dexonline.ro/definitie/tais "Tzais" = formidable / "Zeiss" = lenses http://dexonline.ro/definitie/crup "Crup" = cannon drunk / "Krupp" = cannon There may be more. But "mardeala" is not German. And neither is "mishto". Radu

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Posted: January 05, 2012 01:54 pm

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QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)

{...}And neither is "mishto".

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ?

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Posted: January 05, 2012 02:03 pm

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QUOTE (IoanTM @ January 05, 2012 01:54 pm)

QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)

{...}And neither is "mishto".

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ?

Because I have German friends whodk not know what "misto" means or what the connection may be with German.
Radu

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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 02:03 pm)

QUOTE (IoanTM @ January 05, 2012 01:54 pm)

QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)

{...}And neither is "mishto".

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ?

Because I have German friends whodk not know what "misto" means or what the connection may be with German.
Radu

Hmmm ... not necessary a correct argument - because the romanian language "adapted" the german words "mit stock".

Radub	Posted: January 05, 2012 02:52 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005	It is exactly the right argument. I know the "myth" and I asked them if "with stick" was ever a by-word for "good"/"nice" and they said no - to keep in with the "myth" the correct term is "mit Wanderstab". DEX states that "misto" is of Gypsy origin. Radu

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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 02:52 pm)

It is exactly the right argument. I know the "myth" and I asked them if "with stick" was ever a by-word for "good"/"nice" and they said no - to keep in with the "myth" the correct term is "mit Wanderstab".
{...}

OK - the version of the myth which I know is that going to walk with a "simple" stick was somehow ... common and usual but to have a "walking-stick with ( silver ) upper-part" was ... something really "cool".

And AFAIK "mit stock" means something like this ...

And BTW - I'm not sure at all that "misto" is a "true&original" gypsy word or one borrowed from them from romanian language as well - for example the following online resource doesn't mention it and indicate another word for "good" : http://www.larp.com/jahavra/language.html

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Radub	Posted: January 05, 2012 03:24 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005	I trust DEX. As I told you, I know the "myth" and the word for that kind of "nice" walking stick is not "Stock" but "Wanderstab" or "Spazierstock". Radu This post has been edited by Radub on January 05, 2012 04:18 pm

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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 03:24 pm)

I trust DEX.

Well ... at this aspect ( possible borrows from gypsy language ) I don't trust DEX.

And as long as there is debatable if this word is "genuine gypsy" one I'm even more in doubt about this.

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As I told you, I know the "myth" and the word for that kind of "nice" walking stick is not "Stock" but "Wanderstab" or "Spazierstock".

The second version still keep a possible link. Anyway ... this is generally speaking irrelevant. Best regards.

Radub	Posted: January 05, 2012 10:27 pm
General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005	Well, the DEX is the "standard" for Romanian language. http://dexonline.ro/definitie/mișto Radu

cipiamon	Posted: May 12, 2012 10:38 am
Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 471 Member No.: 115 Joined: October 06, 2003	As i heard it, in the beginning of the century it was a new fashion trend, from the german fashion houses in Bucharest, you are bad-ass gentleman if you have a "stock", also it was the eternal dogs problem. Great gadget. The DEX needs to revised all the time...

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