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Posted: January 05, 2011 07:39 pm
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If anybody can translate them, is welcome. Romanian researchers have never seen these documents, I have some more of them, but all in russian or czech.

All images are sent to me by a czech guy I know, because I reenact romanian transylvanian volunteer (actually 1st Romanian Transylvanian Volunteer Corp, 3rd Romanian Transylvanian Volunteer Regiment "Avram Iancu") as a hobby (see photo bellow).

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Me and my fellows, 1st December 2010, Alba Iulia.
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Posted: January 05, 2011 07:44 pm
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Sorry for the big pics, I didn't knew it'll be soooo big.
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Posted: January 05, 2011 07:59 pm
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Just for you guys, a less known pic of romanian transylvanian volunteers, ww1. Regiments of romanian volunteers from romanians from Transylvania, exAH soldiers, exPOW's in Italy.

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My electronic collection, given by and reproduced courtesy to National Military Museum, Bucharest.
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Posted: January 05, 2011 08:33 pm
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Also for your delice, Romanian transylvian volunteers, 1st Corp, ww1, taking the oath, 1917 most probably. Notice that due to lack of raw materials, they dont have waist belts and ammo pouches. The ammo clips were put inside the material which covered their waist. Same source of photo as above.

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Posted: January 26, 2011 08:24 pm
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About this subject, see
Cruciati, tirani si banditi, by Elie Bufnea, the one who had the photos and documents presented by Kevin in that album above, editura Marist, 2009.
Elie Bufnea participated in that campaign, and those are his memories.
Luptele romanilor cu bolsevicii in Siberia, by Simion Ghisa, editura Marist 2009, memories of another participant at this campaign.
More about Romanian volunteers in Siberia, Italy, French and United States, by the same Elie Bufnea:
Revolutia de eliberare nationala a Transilvaniei. Unirea (1914-1918), editura Marist, 2010.
Here are some links:

http://www.marist.ro/aparitii_istoria_adevarata01.htm

http://www.marist.ro/aparitii_istoria_adevarata02.htm

http://www.marist.ro/alte%20titluri/coperta_sg_f.jpg

http://www.marist.ro/aparitii_revolutia.htm

http://www.marist.ro/aparitii_album.htm
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Posted: January 26, 2011 09:02 pm
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This books are also available for sale at Muzeul Unirii from Alba Iulia.
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Posted: February 09, 2011 12:29 pm
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From what I understand the unit was raised using men from the following areas including Transylvania:-

Alba Inferioara - Arad -

Bihor - Bistrita-Nasaud - Brasov - Brasovului - Bucovina - Bihor - Bihorului - Basarabia -

Caras-Severin - Cenadului - Clujului - Cojocnei - Ciuc - Ciucului -

Dobrogea -

Fagaras -

Hunedoara - Hunedoarei -

Maramuras - Muras-Turda -

Satmar - Salagiu - Salaj - Sibiu - Solnoc-Dobaca -

Tarnava Mare - Tarnava Mica - Timis - Timisului - Torontal - Torontalului - Trei Scaune - Turda-Aries - Tulcan.

They were organised into:-

Compania Statului Major
121 names,

Intendenta Legiunei.
74 names.

Spital Legiunei / Hospital Medical Corps.
15 Names.

Compania de Pioneri / Engineer Company.
125 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania 1 / "Horea" Battalion, 1st Company.
133 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania a 2 a / "Horea" Battalion, 2nd Company.
123 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania a 3 a / "Horea" Battalion, 3rd Company.
115 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania a 4 a / "Horea" Battalion, 4th Company.
114 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania de depozit. / "Horea" Battalion, Deposit Company.
103 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania de mitraliera / Artillery Company.
140 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Compania de legatura.
36 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Horea" Unitatea de cercetasi calare.
16 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Marasesti" Compania 1 a / "Marasesti" Battalion, 1st Company.
140 names.

Batalionul II operativ "Marasesti" Compania 2 a / "Marasesti" Battalion, 2nd Company.
136 names.

Batalionul II operativ "Marasesti" Compania 3 a / "Marasesti" Battalion, 3rd Company.
130 names.

Batalionul II operativ "Marasesti" Compania 4 a / "Marasesti" Battalion, 4th Company.
147 names.

Batalionul II operativ "Marasesti" Compania de depozit. / "Marasesti" Battalion, Deposit Company.
104 names.

Batalionul II operativ "Marasesti" Compania de mitraliera. /Artillery Company.
141 names.

Batalionul I operativ "Marasesti" Unitatea de legatura.
40 names.

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Posted: February 17, 2011 10:31 am
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All those names are foundation members of one association of volunteers, association made few years after the war, Casa Voluntarilor Români din Siberia (CVRS). The list don't include reserve battalion (Irkutsk) and all the volunteers, just the members who founded CVRS.
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Posted: February 17, 2011 01:25 pm
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QUOTE (contras @ February 17, 2011 10:31 am)
All those names are foundation members of one association of volunteers, association made few years after the war, Casa Voluntarilor Români din Siberia (CVRS). The list don't include reserve battalion (Irkutsk) and all the volunteers, just the members who founded CVRS.

Not sure I follow your meaning,

do you mean the names listed in the recently published book :-

"CORPUL VOLUNTARILOR ROMANI DIN SIBERIA (1918-1920)"

because the list of names, along with age, occupation and location where from

to my eyes equate to the members of the Legion who served in Siberia,

particularly as it gives a rank first.

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Posted: February 17, 2011 04:50 pm
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Yes, Kevin, those listed in the book are former veterans who served in Siberia and made after they returned home an association called Casa Voluntarilor Romani in Siberia, and Elie Bufnea was one of the directors. This list is made by him.
The total number of volunteers in Siberia is over 5000 men, up to 10000 men.
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Posted: February 17, 2011 05:28 pm
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What I do find strange is that the men listed in the book as coming from

the locations of:- Cugir, Vinereia, & Almasu Mare

are NOT on the local War memorials erected in those locations. blink.gif

I have personally checked the 3 monuments for the names.

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Posted: February 17, 2011 09:29 pm
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QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ February 17, 2011 07:28 pm)
What I do find strange is that the men listed in the book as coming from

the locations of:- Cugir, Vinereia, & Almasu Mare

are NOT on the local War memorials erected in those locations. blink.gif

I have personally checked the 3 monuments for the names.

Kevin in Deva.

For some, maybe this mean "Patria recunoscătoare" (Gratefull Motherland). dry.gif
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Posted: February 18, 2011 06:27 pm
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What I do find strange is that the men listed in the book as coming from

the locations of:- Cugir, Vinereia, & Almasu Mare

are NOT on the local War memorials erected in those locations.


It is normal, because those men aren't dyng in battle, they survived the war, come back home from Siberia, and do their lives. From time to time, like other veterans, they meet each other in some places to commemorate the ones who don't survived. Those meetings were organised by CVRS, a kind of War Veterans Association. The names in the book is the list of members who founded CVRS (Casa Voluntarilor Romani din Siberia).
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Posted: February 19, 2011 08:36 pm
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If anybody can translate ...

TREATY
on the formation of The Transilvanian-Bucovinean-Romanian Volunteer Corps.
The Romanian National Committee (RNC) assumes the task of setting up from romanian, transilvanian and bucovinean military POWs which are on Russian territory, The Romanian Volunteer Corps (RVC), in order to fight for the liberation of all existing in Austro-Hungary romanian territories and to attach them to the free Romania.
The Department for Russia (DR) of the Tchechoslovak National Soviet (TchSNS), in the common purpose of the revolutionary movement of both peoples against Austro-Hungary, it undertakes to provide full support for setting up the RVC.
To this purpose, both executive organs have conspired on the following conditions
:...


RNC is the political partner, RVC is under the TchS protectorate and is formed for close action with TchS and the allies, on the russian and romanian territory and if need in France, till the final peace. Formation under TchS direction, TchS mil. trainers. Subordinate to TchS Troops. TchS logistic support, money and control....
Tchelyabinsk, Aug.24, 1918

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Posted: February 19, 2011 08:38 pm
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Petre, thank you very much!!!!!
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