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Posted: September 09, 2005 01:38 am
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Quote from 'Bf 109 In Action', Part 2, by John Beaman (p. 23):

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The oversized tires brought a degress of improved landing and ground handling (...). The new stamped wheels that were introduced on the G-3 , were considerably cheaper to produce than the spoked wheels(...)


Of course, one can occasionally find G-4s with the old spoked wheels, but I believe the norm for a regular G-4 was the new stamped wheels.

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Maybe G-3 prototypes. But show me one picture with a Bf-109 G-4 with stamped wheels ( not spoked).
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Posted: September 09, 2005 07:29 am
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Bizu's G4 also had spoked wheels...i dare anyone to find me a romanian G3/4 with cast wheels...A beer for each!

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Source: AIRMAG Hors Serie, no. 1 Les Messerschmitt Bf 109 roumains
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Posted: September 12, 2005 02:55 pm
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I did some research and it looks like the US source I quoted is dated.
More recent German sources indicate that most of the G-4 series retained the spiked wheel rims, only the last batch receveived the new cast wheel rims. Indeed, I could find only a couple of photos showing Luftwaffe G-4s with the cast wheel rims, most retaining the spiked wheel rims.

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Posted: September 15, 2006 05:44 am
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Does anybody know the dimensions for the Romanian Cross(don't know the proper name for it) on the sides/wings of these aircraft?


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Posted: September 15, 2006 08:57 am
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The cross is often referred to as "Michael's Cross". It is a cross formed by four letters M, which was the royal seal of King Michael the 1st of Romania.
As for dimensions, there were official regulations that stipulated a proportional relationship between the size of the area (wing or fuselage) where the cross was to be applied and the size of the cross itself.
However, there were many variations and departures from the rule, so the best thing to do is to use photgraphs to size them. There were also variations in the design of the cross, with variations of line width, dimensions of the roundel, etc. On Bf109s, the cross was between 0,8m and 1m in width/height. From photos, it appears that all 6 crosses were the same size.
Unfortunately, there is not "one size fits all" type of cross, you really have to find photos to see what applies...
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Posted: December 20, 2011 03:09 am
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I know this is an older threat, but as a newbie here I do have a question. I am trying to build this same model at the front of the thread. A hobbycraft Russian front 109. Does the Romanian Bf-109 g2 in this model have any camo on the wings or was it straight dark green or so? The directions so it is all dark green. Although, I have seen some black and white photos and it looks like their is camo pattern. Was not sure if the early 109's were mostly all dark green and later 109 g's became gray green camo patterns. Thanks for any input
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Posted: December 22, 2011 06:02 am
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I know this is an older threat, but as a newbie here I do have a question. I am trying to build this same model at the front of the thread. A hobbycraft Russian front 109. Does the Romanian Bf-109 g2 in this model have any camo on the wings or was it straight dark green or so? The directions so it is all dark green. Although, I have seen some black and white photos and it looks like their is camo pattern. Was not sure if the early 109's were mostly all dark green and later 109 g's became gray green camo patterns. Thanks for any input


If you like romanian ww2 fighters, get the book "Romanian fighter colours" from MMP editor. You will find all the answers you looking for. ;)
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Posted: December 22, 2011 06:50 am
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ December 22, 2011 06:02 am)
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I know this is an older threat, but as a newbie here I do have a question. I am trying to build this same model at the front of the thread. A hobbycraft Russian front 109. Does the Romanian Bf-109 g2 in this model have any camo on the wings or was it straight dark green or so? The directions so it is all dark green. Although, I have seen some black and white photos and it looks like their is camo pattern. Was not sure if the early 109's were mostly all dark green and later 109 g's became gray green camo patterns. Thanks for any input


If you like romanian ww2 fighters, get the book "Romanian fighter colours" from MMP editor. You will find all the answers you looking for. ;)

Thanks for the information about the book. I have ordered the book and look forward to getting it ;) ;)
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