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> Clasps of the Crusade Medal, Formerly known as "Rod"
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Posted: March 12, 2005 11:31 pm
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Posted: March 12, 2005 11:48 pm
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Do you happen to have an image of the Stalingrad bar?


I do-now to find it . . .
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Carol I
Posted: March 13, 2005 09:57 am
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I have noticed another difference. Take a look at the bars in the image below posted by b737. Some bars are rectangular and have the text over the full width (like NIPRU), while others have round edges and the text in a small box in the centre (like NISTRU and CAUCAZ). What was the reason/meaning/cause of these differences?

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Posted: March 13, 2005 02:14 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Mar 12 2005, 05:29 PM)

Do you happen to have an image of the Stalingrad bar?
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Posted: March 13, 2005 02:15 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Mar 13 2005, 03:57 AM)
Some bars are rectangular and have the text over the full width (like NIPRU), while others have round edges and the text in a small box in the centre (like NISTRU and CAUCAZ). What was the reason/meaning/cause of these differences?


Maybe different manufacturers?

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Posted: March 14, 2005 05:38 pm
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Here are several medals currently on eBay, with bars:

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Posted: March 14, 2005 05:38 pm
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Close-up of the bars:

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Dénes
Posted: March 14, 2005 05:40 pm
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The same medal with a ribbon style I haven't seen so far (also on eBay):

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Carol I
Posted: March 15, 2005 07:51 pm
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QUOTE (Cuza @ Mar 13 2005, 03:15 PM)
QUOTE (Carol I @ Mar 13 2005, 03:57 AM)
Some bars are rectangular and have the text over the full width (like NIPRU), while others have round edges and the text in a small box in the centre (like NISTRU and CAUCAZ). What was the reason/meaning/cause of these differences?

Maybe different manufacturers?

I just remembered that ribbons used by the Germans were narrower than the Romanian ones. It could therefore be possible that the 'text-in-a-box' bars were manufactured according to German ribbon specifications. Can anyone confirm this hypothesis?
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Posted: March 15, 2005 08:01 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Mar 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
The same medal with a ribbon style I haven't seen so far (also on eBay):
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If I remember right this ribbon style was used by Bulgaria and Hungary during WWII. As Bulgaria did not participate to the campaign against the Soviet Union, the only remaining option is Hungary. It could therefore be possible that this medal was awarded to a Hungarian.
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Posted: March 16, 2005 03:57 pm
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Here is the same medal with a different ribbon (fake?).

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Posted: March 17, 2005 08:24 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Mar 16 2005, 04:57 PM)
Here is the same medal with a different ribbon (fake?).

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This is not the original ribbon of the medal.
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Carol I
Posted: March 17, 2005 08:36 pm
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By the way, I have just remembered that it is said that there are medals that are signed "P GRANT" under the head on the obverse/reverse (sometimes referred to as "official issues") and medals that are not signed. Can anyone confirm this? What is the story behind these versions?
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Posted: October 25, 2005 05:16 pm
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I think the medals with "P. Grant" are the only original ones, while the unsigned ones are repros. This medal seems to have been faked in great numbers. It is way too ofter seen in WW2 German medal bars that show up on E-Bay and on dealer sites.

As for the award criteria, it was required that the awarded person took part in at least one major battle. I think they started to award it to officers and foreigners and the lower grades didn't have the chance to get it until 23 August 1944.
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Posted: October 25, 2005 06:35 pm
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Here is the original pouch for the discussed medal.

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