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Posted: February 16, 2005 11:24 am
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More data from "Air international " article ( author Dan Antoniu ) regarding the 12 Hurricane in Romanian service.


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Posted: February 16, 2005 11:28 am
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And a picture with the rom.Hurricanes on Mamaia 53sq airfield. Courtesy Dan Antoniu.


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Posted: February 16, 2005 11:31 am
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Anyhow, below is a photo of a Rumanian Hurricane, taken by a German mechanic.

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Nice picture. It's from e-bay ? Do you have more from german sources?

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Posted: February 16, 2005 09:15 pm
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Feb 16 2005, 05:31 PM)
Nice picture. It's from e-bay ? Do you have more from german sources?

Below is another photo, possibly taken at the same time.

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Posted: February 17, 2005 09:17 pm
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Here is the reply I received from Steven Modeldad:
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I would presume (knowing how dangerous a presumption is) that all 12 were delivered with fabric wings. I believe all 12 came from the "L" serial number series. These would be from the first 600 produced. It appears that all the other Hurricanes delivered to foreign purchasers from this series had fabric wings. The exception may be a few of the Finnish Hurricanes, which may have had thier wings replaced with metal wings just prior to delievery, or were overhauld in Finland.

The first metal wing Hiurrican carried serial number N2423. But not all Hurricanes produced subsequent to that number had metal wings. For what ever reason, a few odd batches are reported ot have had fabric wings.


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Posted: February 18, 2005 07:41 am
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It appears that all the other Hurricanes delivered to foreign purchasers from this series had fabric wings.

Steven Modeldad  sad.gif



It appears that all Hurricanes delivered to foreign purchares from this series had "Mauser" guns. tongue.gif

Dan Modelmom. biggrin.gif

Denes you forgott your previous statement :

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believe puting too much emphasis on logic and hindsight in historical matters can lead to errors. It's not a good practice in my view.
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What shall i believe 430 Hurricanes ( from your first issue) with fabric cover wings or 600 ( the second issue )

Anyway all the pictures show rom. Hurricanes are with metal wings ( including your pictures). Until you or someone else come with at least one picture ( or an oficiall document) with Romanian Hurricane with fabric cover wings , this subject shoud be closed ( or open). We need clear proof to change that.

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PS: I am out of the topic with this issue ( "to be or not to be" cover fabric wings).

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Posted: February 18, 2005 11:47 am
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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:16 pm
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(Cantacuzino @ Feb 16 2005, 05:31 PM)
Nice picture. It's from e-bay ? Do you have more from german sources?



Below is another photo, possibly taken at the same time.

Gen. Dénes



And another from the same german sources.

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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:21 pm
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And another from the same german sources.


In the summer 1940 germans fought Hurricanes over England, in Romania german mechanics make pictures with romanian Hurricanes.

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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:25 pm
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great photo, and great comment , thanks for sharing !

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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:45 pm
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Feb 18 2005, 01:41 PM)
Denes you forgott your previous statement :

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believe puting too much emphasis on logic and hindsight in historical matters can lead to errors. It's not a good practice in my view.
Denes

Dan, why are you addressing this to me??? sad.gif This beats me...

All I did was to paste & copy what Steve Modeldad wrote related to this topic.

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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:52 pm
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Dan, why are you addressing this to me???  This beats me...

All I did was to paste & copy what Steve Modeldad wrote related to this topic.

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With what purpose . huh.gif Nobody ask you to do blink.gif It's not a relyble source for our issue. Who is this Modeldad (Tatal modelismului? tongue.gif ) You used him as a reference in your books for romanian Hurricanes ? sad.gif

Sorry i upset you again. unsure.gif

Dan.

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Posted: February 18, 2005 11:50 pm
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Feb 18 2005, 07:52 PM)
With what purpose .  huh.gif

To add further info to the topic. My post, quoting Steven Modeldad, a knowledgeable person, did add some interesting new elements.

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Nobody ask you to do  blink.gif

Since when do I have to ask for permission to post here??? dry.gif
Everybody (registered) is entitled to post relevant information.

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It's not a relyble source for our issue. Who is this Modeldad (Tatal modelismului? tongue.gif )


Why don't you ask him personally? I have his e-mail address, if you wish.
BTW, it's not nice to make fun of someone's name of choice, Cantacuzino...

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Sorry i upset you again.  unsure.gif

Yes, you did and this is not the first time. And please spare me your advise not to take it personally, when it's clearly personal.

Let me recap the whole issue, to clarify the topic and avoid further confusion.
Initially, I noted that according to British sources, the batch of Hurricanes delivered to Rumania may have had fabric covered wings. The photos I've seen were inconclusive in this regard. Please note, that I did not say at all that the ARR Hurricanes had fabric covered wings. It's only a technical issue I wanted to clarify. No hidden agendas, no politics, nothing. Just a technical issue.
Now, turning this into a personal issue (again) is against what I am here for. If you have anything personal with me, use the PM feature, or write an e-mail.

Gen. Dénes

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Posted: February 19, 2005 07:33 pm
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Will this "conversation" EVER ENDS?????????????
I'ts like those "conversations" between me and Victor that are going no where.
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Posted: February 19, 2005 10:20 pm
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On pg 137 of Cracinoiu's book about the ARR,ther's a photo of a HH with 6 mg's.
The nr of the plane is 5.
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