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Posted by: CCJ June 21, 2004 12:03 am
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This is a large order bar with many decorations and orders. This must have belonged to a medical officer.

Michael the Brave heads up the bar followed by Order of Star and Orders of Crown.

Posted by: CCJ June 21, 2004 12:10 am
By the way, I need help ID'ing many of these medals. As you probably know, Romanian medals are not well known in the USA. The WWII decorations may be but medals of earlier periods are not.

Posted by: Carol I June 21, 2004 07:52 am
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From left to right:

Military Order of Michael the Brave (third class)
Order of the Star of Romania with swords (knight)
Order of the Crown of Romania with swords (knight)
Medal of Ferdinand I with swords
Order of the Crown of Romania (officer)
Queen Mary Cross Order (second class)
Honour Sign for 25 Years in Service
Sanitary Merit Cross (first class)
WWI Commemorative Cross (with 1918, Ardeal and Marasesti bars)
Valour and Faith Medal with swords
Carol I Jubilee Medal
WWI Victory Medal
1913 Commemorative Medal
The Centennial of King Carol I Medal (with Pro Patria bar)

Posted by: mihai June 22, 2004 11:25 am
>Military Order of Michael the Brave (third class)
1st type"1881-1932", Fredinand knig era.

Mihai

Posted by: Carol I June 22, 2004 12:17 pm
[quote]>Military Order of Michael the Brave (third class)
1st type"1881-1932", Fredinand knig era.[/quote]

Indeed first type, but this type was used between 1916 and 1941, not between 1881 and 1932.

Posted by: CCJ June 22, 2004 09:30 pm
Was this 1st type Michael the Brave awarded during WW2 or was the 2nd type in existance before the war started?

Posted by: Victor June 22, 2004 09:49 pm
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Was this 1st type Michael the Brave awarded during WW2 or was the 2nd type in existance before the war started?


Yes, there were few 1916 models awarded during WWII also, in the initial stages.

Posted by: Carol I June 22, 2004 10:04 pm
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Was this 1st type Michael the Brave awarded during WW2 or was the 2nd type in existance before the war started?

The first type badges of the Order of Michael the Brave were mainly used for WWI related awards up to the end of the 1930s. The second type badges were introduced in 1941, but it seems that before they were manufactured some of the WWII awardees received badges of the first type.

Posted by: CCJ June 22, 2004 10:55 pm
Are there records of who received what type? I would be interested to learn who was awarded these 1st types in the early 40s.

Posted by: Victor June 23, 2004 06:26 am
Major general Nicolae Dascalescu was the one awarded the 1916 version of teh 3rd class and Antonescu received the 2nd and 1st classes of the same model. In rest all other MV Orders were either 1941 or 1944 models.

This happened because the two were the first Romanians who received the order during WWII in August and September. The rest were awarded from 8 November (St. Michael Day) onwards, with King Mihai I receiving the first model 1941.

Posted by: mihai June 23, 2004 10:40 am
Thank you your appint

It's my mistake.
Mihai

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>Military Order of Michael the Brave (third class)  
1st type\"1881-1932\", Fredinand knig era.


Indeed first type, but this type was used between 1916 and 1941, not between 1881 and 1932.

Posted by: mihai June 23, 2004 10:44 am
Regading the recipt of Order of MV,It's good to see the follwing book:
Ordinul Militar de Razboi "Mihai Viteazul"
By Colonel Eugen Ichim, Modelism,2000
this book write almost Romanian Recipt of this order.
Mihai
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Are there records of who received what type? I would be interested to learn who was awarded these 1st types in the early 40s.

Posted by: CCJ June 23, 2004 09:09 pm
Mihai,

I have been looking for that very book. I cannot find it. Could someone in Romania buy it and ship it to me if I pay for the book and shipping charges?

Posted by: mihai June 25, 2004 09:27 am
CCJ

I understand your request.
Now,I have a book for my reserch,buy I heard My friends in Romania to buy this book
I'll comunicate with "PM"
Thank you
Mihai

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Mihai,

I have been looking for that very book. I cannot find it. Could someone in Romania buy it and ship it to me if I pay for the book and shipping charges?

Posted by: CCJ July 03, 2004 06:45 pm
Thanks, I really would like to have it.

Posted by: Dénes July 26, 2004 04:11 pm
Yet another large orders bar:
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Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR July 27, 2004 04:31 am
1877 Danube Cross, WW1 medals, 1939 Centenial medal. A very old man ?

Posted by: Carol I July 27, 2004 06:05 am
The 1877 Danube Cross has the "Traditia" bar, indicating that the holder of this bar was the officer son of an officer serving in the 1877 war.

Posted by: CCJ July 27, 2004 11:11 pm
Very nice, I like the mini medal bar to...

Posted by: mihai July 30, 2004 03:11 pm
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Very nice, I like the mini medal bar to...


Me too!
Do you have other example of miniture medal bar?
Mihai

Posted by: REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR July 31, 2004 11:05 pm
"TRADITIA" medal bar. I have also seen this bar applied to the WW1 service cross.

Posted by: Carol I August 01, 2004 09:06 am
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\"TRADITIA\" medal bar. I have also seen this bar applied to the WW1 service cross.

Yes, as a recognition for the families with a long line of active officers, in a decree issued in 1939 it was specified that the Crossing of the Danube Cross and the Commemorative Cross of the 1916-1918 War can be inherited and worn by one of the descendants of the officer originally holding them, provided that he was also an active officer. These indirect awards were distinguished from the direct ones through the TRADIŢIE bar.

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